my second cycle... critique

[naz-uk]

ok going to be second cycle just did a straight 500mg test e for 10 wk last time and was very pleased. im going to be mainly cutting but want to gain a small amount of muscle too, so its a low cal diet.

6'1 200lbs
13% bf (want to get to about 8)
2000-2500kcal p/day

1-10 ephedrine 25mg 3x p/day
1- 10caffeine 200mg 3x p/day
1- 10test p 150mg eod
1- 8 deca 50mg eod
6-10 winstrol 50mg ed

so bascially its going to be a shot eod of 1.5ml test and 0.5ml deca (2ml shot eod) i would use 1ml but then its going to be a 2.5ml shot and thats too much isnt it? but then at least i would get a better deca doseage... what you guys think??

at moment its 525mg test prop p/week and 175mg deca p/week but if i did the 2.5ml shot its would be 350mg deca!

in regards to pct will have nolvadex on hand throughout cycle but will start 3 days after last prop shot with clomid therapy and nolva ed at 20mg (clomid therapy from steroid .com cycles) for as long as i feel needed. (usually like 3-4 weeks?)

[naz-uk]

any help with this?? really need some advice on how much to take im a bit paranoid of the prop pain, so need to know wether to do 0.5ml of deca or 1ml? to avoid pain.

[hosam4ever]

drop the deca its useless here

[naz-uk]

but i need to cut the prop with something otherwise its going to be too thick! should i up the deca dose to 100mg so then its 1ml instead of 0.5ml but then ill be shooting 2.5ml is that ok?

[taiboxa]

why do u have to cut it? just run it as is

[lakelandrb20]

that is not enough deca p/week and ur not running it long enough to see any results so just drop it

[naz-uk]

how about if i did 75mg prop and 50mg deca ed then it would be 525mg prop per week and 350mg deca per week? and run them both for 10 weeks?

[hosam4ever]

u dont have 2 do deca ed u can take it twice every week & prop ed untill 3 days b4 pct start time

[naz-uk]

yeah but im worried about taking prop on its own because of the thickness leaving me with alot of soreness from what ive heard, or is it nothing to worry about, its bd prop.

[DDDNTZ]

You can dilute it with B-12 injectable

[cfiler]

I'd cut out the deca . You shouldn't have a problem with the prop.

[peump]

You can dilute it with B-12 injectable

or a sterile oil

I'd cut out the deca.

me too



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how long has it been since that first cycle you speak of?
do you intend on adding aspirin to the ephedra caffeine stack?

[peump]

hey naz-uk,

whats up with your prop?

i just read the other thread you started on cottonseed oil.

you seem determined to cut the prop with something to "make it thinner"

how thick is it?

is more thick that normal?

[naz-uk]

nah its bd prop but just worried as ive heard so many people complain on here about prop leaving them with alot of pain after shots and want to avoid it!

[SMAN12b]

So, why are you set on using prop then? Why not go with another ester Test that you don't have to "CUT" do you really want to be doing ED shots for only your second cycle???

[naz-uk]

well the main issue is that im going away in a while and want to get into the cycle asap rather than waiting around 5-6 weeks for test e to kick in.