What AAS are LOW in ANDROGENS

[needbigguns]

Just ou of interest what AAS are low in androgens, and is it possible to put on a lot of mass by using these or do you mainly need to realy on high androgens to build mass

[Benches505]

Equipoise is one that comes to mind first when I think of low androgens. The main thing people over look when building mass is food! and boat loads of it. You can pump the most androgenic juice by the tons but if you don't eat enough or the right things your gains will be minimal, keep in mind that food is the most anabolic substance out there. Your training methods are also going to influence how much mass. and the speed at which it comes.

With that all said,if diet and training are in check, you will gain more and faster from a more anabolic/androgenic steroid every time

[needbigguns]

I was talking to an idiot the other day and he was calling EQ "Poor Man's Deca " ! Idiot, never run EQ but im going to give it a go next i think... I want to try some new compounds, maybe EQ, Test C, and Masteron

[Bigmax]

Well test c is androgenic bud.Benches hit right on the head when he said you need food and lots of it.Food is the most anabolic for putting on mass.do any cycle and if your food isnt right whether you're bulking or cutting you're spinning your wheels.

[needbigguns]

yeh when i bulk i just eat everything in sight wether it be good food, weight gainers or chocolate bars...im a natural ecto but with gear and a good diet id say iv built quite a decent physique in the past few years - but still i can cut BF in no time - and to be honest i recon i could also probably loose muscle easy - so all out bulking works best for me

[powerliftmike]

Unfortunately, a downshift in the androgenic rating automatically decreases anabolic properties. However, there are many great compounds out there that are low in androgens (but not necessarily good for the hairline if thats what you are getting at): winstrol , primo, eq, deca , var, tbol just to name a few.

[needbigguns]

I can get primo but only Apex - and iv heard off a lot of people on here it is very low quality...Could i run a cycle without Test, then just add test if needed for libido and HCG with PCT afterwards ?

[hosam4ever]

winny eq primo

[tvd220]

im actually looking into the samething, what i am going to do is run a tbol deca cycle and add test at low dose just to stop supression.

[tvd220]

this is called TRT

[tvd220]

yea i get bad acne sides with test, and no sides with deca .... but at the same time i dont want to be shut down all cycle.

I can get primo but only Apex - and iv heard off a lot of people on here it is very low quality...Could i run a cycle without Test, then just add test if needed for libido and HCG with PCT afterwards ?

[Tren Bull]

Just ou of interest what AAS are low in androgens, and is it possible to put on a lot of mass by using these or do you mainly need to realy on high androgens to build mass

deca isn't very androgenic , and i think equi is the same way. i was under the impression that roids which are very androgenic tend to make you very strong, while its the anabolic abilities that make you big.

[tvd220]

seems like it makes sence, but arnt the more androgenic steroids ' gains not as permanenat?

[Tren Bull]

seems like it makes sence, but arnt the more androgenic steroids' gains not as permanenat?

not necessarily. tren is incredibly androgenic ... like 3 times as androgenic as test and the gains are very keepable

[tvd220]

yea and it got crazy androgenic sides... Yea you are right though.