Advice on f-ed up cycle

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:15 PM

Regretfully, I am almost finished with my 2nd cycle of deca . 600mg/week. Started winny 55mg/day halfway through. I've gained about 10 lbs and the winny is really starting to kick in.

I'm thinking of starting a cycle of ultra sust. can anyone offer advice and advise on a PCT?

**shortie** · 05-11-2006, 02:19 PM

Cycle ends always suck IMO-That's why I'm going the HRT way, now more ends! As for PCT are you talking for the cycle you are on now or the next one? If for the next the protocol you use for this cycle's PCT should be used again if it works well for you. Also, you ussed test this time didn't you?

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:22 PM

That's my problem, I didn't take test. I did a deca only cycle with winny. I know I should have done test. So, my question was 2 parts:
Should I start test (ultra sust) right now?
What is a good pct for after I do the ultra sust?

thanks!

**shortie** · 05-11-2006, 02:24 PM

How long was your deca winny cycle?

**novicenovicen** · 05-11-2006, 02:30 PM

ouch no test. well you can hit the PCT hard.

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:33 PM

1st deca cycle - 5 weeks 600 mg/week
2nd deca cycle - in my 4th week out of 5
winny - started 28 days ago, have 2 weeks left.

What sides am I looking at? Should I start the ultra sust? What is a good pct for after the ultra sust?
thanks guys

**novicenovicen** · 05-11-2006, 02:35 PM

I would hit some test right now and pull it out 14 weeks.

**taiotosh7** · 05-11-2006, 02:36 PM

what makes this sus ultra??

if you have the sus then hit it up right now with the decca for 8-10 wks

get some hcg and nolva and you should recover well from this one bro

**shortie** · 05-11-2006, 02:37 PM

5 wks, I guessed it would be short. Go ahead and start PCT, lay out your PCT plan for this cycle and let some folks weigh in on it. Most likely you will find PCT plans are roughly the same for almost all compounds. So if you got a good PCT for this cycle you will probably use it on a sust cycle.

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:39 PM

Thanks again guys.

So I'm going to start the ultra sust. take it to about 12 more weeks and then start pct? What a mess I wish I started the test earlier.

**shortie** · 05-11-2006, 02:41 PM

You're going to supress your HTPA for 17 weeks at 22 yrs of Age? Let us know how that works out for you, and welcome to the HRT clinic.

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:43 PM

I'm 27.
so how long do you think I should wait before I start sust?

**shortie** · 05-11-2006, 02:46 PM

Sorry man-I thought your pro said 22-my bad. I would still wait on the sust, do pct wait a few weeks then do the sust, but if you really want to start it now don't go longer that 6 wks, this will total a 10 wk cycle. One of the greatest factors in recovery is cycle length IMO. You run that sucker out 17 wks it may be a while before things come back to normal.

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by taiotosh7

what makes this sus ultra??

if you have the sus then hit it up right now with the decca for 8-10 wks

get some hcg and nolva and you should recover well from this one bro

the sust I have is 175mg/ml of cyp - there is 175mg/ml of enath - and there is 100 mg/ml of prop. it's a 10 week cycle

getting mixed reviews. I'm done with the deca after next week. Should I start the hgc and nolva during the cycle?

**novicenovicen** · 05-11-2006, 02:58 PM

I would go on and hit the sus. getting your test lvl up and getting rid of the deca dic. continue to gain and have a sex life then pct. Why pct now then hit the sus then pct again?

**Facecrash** · 05-11-2006, 03:01 PM

That was my original idea. Honestly, I've been plowing the sh*t out of my girl like a champ the whole way through. 2-3 times a day at least. No deca dic at all.

**novicenovicen** · 05-11-2006, 03:05 PM

Nice. you the man. most people have the opposite.

**taiotosh7** · 05-11-2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Facecrash

the sust I have is 175mg/ml of cyp - there is 175mg/ml of enath - and there is 100 mg/ml of prop. it's a 10 week cycle

getting mixed reviews. I'm done with the deca after next week. Should I start the hgc and nolva during the cycle?

Do some pct research, especially on the hcg cuz there are so many ways to use it. If you feel the need, say if things just aren't feeling right with captain winky, run some in the middle of your sus cycle. 250-500 mgs every 5 days for 3 wks, then start again 3 weeks prior to nolva at 500-1000 mg. Since you should wait about 2 weeks after your last shot of sus for pct, run the hcg one week before your last us shot.......again there are so many ways to run hcg bro