Cutting down on TREN.

[randy6969]

i was wondering what Fat loss product works best in conjunction with Tren . my goal is to loose as much BF as i can while on my Tren. cycle which also includes Test. My current BF is 14% at 175lbs

Stats:
175lbs
14% bf
lifting for 3 years

[SPIKE]

Fat loss product? I dnot beleive in fat loss products.

Are you pertaining to AAS on this one of OTC supps?

[randy6969]

either one....

[SPIKE]

What esle are you taking with the Tren Randy? How does the cycle look?

I"m sure you're looking for a simple 1 word answer but you'll never get that from me. Better to lay everything out so a more personalized reply is given.

As far as overall fat loss I prefer diet and training over anything supplement. I"m sure you knew that was coming.

[randy6969]

weeks 1-3 Tbol 50 Mg Ed
Weeks 1-8 Tren 75mg ED
weeks 1-9 Test Cyp 500 EW
i have taken Hot-Rox in the past...really didnt do much for me ... i train ED... and i lift 5 times a week....and when im not lifting im either hitten the heavybag or cardio.... i take 25mg of caffeine prior to my workout ed just for mental alertness.....

[SPIKE]

Here's a good thread on Cardio on when and how to do it:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=240522

The cylce looks good but if you're really concerned about water weight and being lean then the cyp can be replaced with prop. Plus since you're already going to be injecting ED you may as well inject ED with the Prop. That would also make more sense.

As far as supplements Randy, I have worked at gyms and a few supplement stores for years. OTC supps are mostly all marketing with shiney labels giving you a hopeful thought that they'll help you lost weight. The caffeine is one thing as it can have a slight thermogenic effect and aid in burning some more calories.

Take a look over that thread and check out the diet forum. Get that diet on lock and run your cylce. Train, eat and rest the part and everything else will fall into place.

[SPIKE]

Any thoughts Randy?

[groundandpoundpwr21]

Go with var. Both tren and var actually burn fat.

[randy6969]

i have hurd you only notice the cutting strength of var when you are low BF to begin with, same with EQ and Wini..... am i wrong?

[SPIKE]

i have hurd you only notice the cutting strength of var when you are low BF to begin with, same with EQ and Wini..... am i wrong?

Yes. Whatever strength you gain off Var, EQ and/or winny will have nothing to do with current BF. As far as seeing gains (mirror) you'll notice more on low BF but strength wont be an issue.

[Machin3]

cutting down is all diet man...cardio.... supplements are an added benefit thats about it