Why on earth is Tren-Hexa classified as a cutting drug all over the place.

**Toenail Juice Z** · 05-22-2006, 01:13 AM

Ok, tren -hexa is an excellent drug for cutting, but it is also in my opinion just as good or even better for adding quality muscle size.

Wouldn't u use it in a bulking cycle?

IMO it is the best steroid , not only in terms of cutting. I would classify it as the best overall steroid. You can't get better. (no water, no aromatization, lean RAPID muscle & strength gains, etc etc...). I think it's a great addition to a bulking cycle also!!

What do you guys think?

I know the test is best rap & all, but has anyone tried Tren(long ester) & deca without test and seen shit results in terms of mass gains, of course using the androgen proviron throughout the cycle!!!, (can't talk about dicks now!!!)

I honestly beleive test isn't always needed and is slightly overrated. (ok u can bite my head off now)

It's only downside IMO is the debatable kidney damage and the increased rage some claim it causes, and the fact that it is only produced by underground labs.

Your opinions please.

**polat** · 05-22-2006, 02:51 AM

I like hexabolone; it changes my body a lot. I have tried it with deca as well without a testo. Good gains. But I still prefer sustanon

**Toenail Juice Z** · 05-22-2006, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by polat

I like hexabolone; it changes my body a lot. I have tried it with deca as well without a testo. Good gains. But I still prefer sustanon

How can you prefer sustanon over Parabolan ?

Why?

(Unless you like the water weight)

**kungen1234** · 05-22-2006, 08:04 AM

Thing is mass-gains arent that dramatic with trenbolone alone, simply because with estrogen you get the added GH release, AR maintenance and nutrientshuffling into your cells.

The meat-industry uses trenbolone as their main steroid for a reason, its the most effective steroid for putting alot of mass rapidly on their products. However , they DO mix in estradiol into the trenbolone pellets simply because thats when the mass comes. Without estrogen however, trenbolone is excellent for cutting purposes.

**Toenail Juice Z** · 05-22-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by kungen1234

Thing is mass-gains arent that dramatic with trenbolone alone, simply because with estrogen you get the added GH release, AR maintenance and nutrientshuffling into your cells.

The meat-industry uses trenbolone as their main steroid for a reason, its the most effective steroid for putting alot of mass rapidly on their products. However , they DO mix in estradiol into the trenbolone pellets simply because thats when the mass comes. Without estrogen however, trenbolone is excellent for cutting purposes.

You have a point there. How about trenbolone with deca though? (The progesterone factor probably comes in here).