two cycles back to back

[ITripMidgets]

Well once I finish with my 7 week dbol cycle, I wanted to start a 10 weeker of test enthanate and Tren Ace. 500mg/week(test) and 75mg mon,wed,fri(tren). My question is not about the gains or the sides but merely what you guys think of running two cycles back to back without any time in between? What are the bad things I can expect and will I likely see continueous gains from the d-bol strait into the Tren/test combo? I'm not asking will I gain 25 lbs of lean muscle or will my dick get big, I merely want to have some input from you guys on running back to back cyles.

[stocky121]

17 week cycle


stats and cycle experiance please ?

[ITripMidgets]

17 week cycle


stats and cycle experiance please ?

thats not what I'm asking....I just want your thoughts on running two back to back cycles.

Pretend I'm small and havent been training long, pretend I'm average and have been training for an average length of time and pretend I'm huge and have been training for 10+years...I wanna hear your thoughts on all different aspects from newbie to experince AAS user.

[Ejuicer]

A 17 week cycle isn't for a beginner. With running a longer cycle you can definitly see continuous results, especially with switching compounds. The negative aspects you'll experience are a harder recovery with a longer cycle and the longer period of stress that you're putting on your body.
I would set up the cycle a little better then that though personally. Just d-bol on it's own in the beginning I would definitly change. Inconsistancy with tren shots on mwf I would change as well.
There's lots of advice that could be given but it's hard for it all to be accurate if you don't provide a background of yourself.

[marcus300]

The cycle needs to be designed around your own cycle history, long cycles work for some bb's and short cycle work for others, you need to know how you have responded in the past to judge if a 17wk cycle is going to be any good for you,

cycle history and stats please.

[ITripMidgets]

Thanks Ejuicer and Marcus300 for the help. Now I'm already a week into the dbol only cycle and I like the results so far. I get my gear from a pro BB and he is the one that made the suggestion to inject 75mg/tren mon,wed,fri.

My stats are 5'8 1/2 200lbs 18% BF (during current bulk cycle). Been training since I was 17 and I'm 23 now. Off and on for 6 years nothing to serious till two years ago. My first cycle was Test Prop and Anadrol 50 (**** you Phill Harrington you big ****ing douchebag). My second cycle is this dbol only cycle at 25mg/day (to see how my body responds to only dbol). And I was thinking of a 3rd cycle of Tren/Test. Anyways any advice or info much appreciated.

[longhorn814]

ever heard of PCT? you never seem to mention it

[SMAN12b]

Thanks Ejuicer and Marcus300 for the help. Now I'm already a week into the dbol only cycle and I like the results so far. I get my gear from a pro BB and he is the one that made the suggestion to inject 75mg/tren mon,wed,fri.

My stats are 5'8 1/2 200lbs 18% BF (during current bulk cycle). Been training since I was 17 and I'm 23 now. Off and on for 6 years nothing to serious till two years ago. My first cycle was Test Prop and Anadrol 50 (**** you Phill Harrington you big ****ing douchebag). My second cycle is this dbol only cycle at 25mg/day (to see how my body responds to only dbol). And I was thinking of a 3rd cycle of Tren/Test. Anyways any advice or info much appreciated.

Just my opinion, but why don't you start the Test E NOW and use the dbol as the kickstarter for the test E.

It is going to take the Test E about 6-8 weeks on average to kick in, so if you start NOW, the dbol can carry you until the Test kicks in and you don't have to worry about back to back, just make sure you have proper PCT for after the Test E

Hope this helps

[ITripMidgets]

ever heard of PCT? you never seem to mention it

Have heard of it and have never used it and probably never will till I feel the need to. I have trained with many people who never did PCT and some of them are world record holders. I think people are far too cautious and my cycles are not (large?) enough to where I feel the need to do PCT. But if I start noticing anything then I will.

[longhorn814]

Have heard of it and have never used it and probably never will till I feel the need to. I have trained with many people who never did PCT and some of them are world record holders. I think people are far too cautious and my cycles are not (large?) enough to where I feel the need to do PCT. But if I start noticing anything then I will.

just b/c you know people that are world record holders, doesnt mean they know how to take them correctly or are in good physical shape. Just b/c they look good on the outside, doesnt mean theyre not messed up on the inside..but hey its your body..do what you want to it

[tvd220]

there are people that hold records that are hrt lifers, there are people that hold records that have ruined sex lives, there are people that hold records that are dead.
Do pct bro, It wont hurt.

[cfiler]

Not doing PCT is just plain stupid.

Running two back to back cycles is equally dumb.

[Pinum]

Have heard of it and have never used it and probably never will till I feel the need to. I have trained with many people who never did PCT and some of them are world record holders. I think people are far too cautious and my cycles are not (large?) enough to where I feel the need to do PCT. But if I start noticing anything then I will.

I don't think there's a person who knows what there talking about that would not use or recommend PCT. Record holders in what...I'm not even gonna say it.

[Cornholio]

My second cycle is this dbol only cycle at 25mg/day (to see how my body responds to only dbol).

I am a newbie so I have to ask is this a good idea taking dbol by itself?

[cfiler]

I am a newbie so I have to ask is this a good idea taking dbol by itself?

No, Dbol only is just as dumb as not doing PCT.

Best first cycle is a single ester test with 250-500mgs every week. Run that for 10 weeks.

[ITripMidgets]

No, Dbol only is just as dumb as not doing PCT.

Best first cycle is a single ester test with 250-500mgs every week. Run that for 10 weeks.

You're a retard man. I know plenty of people and even some on this site, that have said doing d-bol only in moderate doses is not a dumb idea. I will make keepable gains because I keep training and eating right even when I'm not on a cycle.

Btw record holders in Powerlifting. 181lb class

[ITripMidgets]

No, Dbol only is just as dumb as not doing PCT.

Best first cycle is a single ester test with 250-500mgs every week. Run that for 10 weeks.

my first cycle was test prop and Adrol, I just didnt feel like shutting my libido down again for a month after cycle thats why I didnt do test this time. I'm about to do a test cutting cycle soon though.

[ITripMidgets]

Not doing PCT is just plain stupid.

Running two back to back cycles is equally dumb.

explain why please

[mwolffey]

Just my opinion, but why don't you start the Test E NOW and use the dbol as the kickstarter for the test E.

It is going to take the Test E about 6-8 weeks on average to kick in, so if you start NOW, the dbol can carry you until the Test kicks in and you don't have to worry about back to back, just make sure you have proper PCT for after the Test E

Hope this helps

ditto...dbol would be used to kickstart the test e gains