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    Anti E's for big cycle

    Hey guys I am about to begin my largest cycle to date consisting of:
    Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500-750mg
    Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 400mg (never tried before)
    Weeks 1-10 Tren E @ 400mg (might only do 8 weeks)
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50-60mg ED (Not sure this is needed, allready a lot of compounds)
    I was going to take Nolva and letro throughout.I was told it was risky to take Deca and Tren at the same time b/c it would kill my sex drive and greater chance of gyno. Any comments on this stack are welcome. I could use the input thanks.

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    Personally I would not run the Deca and Tren together, JMO. Either way don't run the nolva with it, just the letro(good thread somwhere around with Nark/Big KIG talking about nolva stimulating the PGR hence increasing odds of prolactin related sides).

    For my .02, dump either the tren or deca, and keep the dbol jump start.


    Check out this thread regarding anti-e's and progesterone/prolactin sides http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234981
    Last edited by shortie; 06-08-2006 at 04:27 PM.

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    If I was going to run tren and deca I would include Proviron as one of my anti E`s.

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    There's nothing wrong w/ running deca and tren together, they both compliment each other very well if u can stand the eod or ed injects.
    Use b6, and nolva at 10mgs ed. And 8 weeks on tren is long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso
    There's nothing wrong w/ running deca and tren together, they both compliment each other very well if u can stand the eod or ed injects.
    Use b6, and nolva at 10mgs ed. And 8 weeks on tren is long enough.
    Is 10mgs of nolva sufficient enough to prevent gyno for those who are prone to it? My last cycle I developed a "lump" and I certainly dont want it to get any worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    Personally I would not run the Deca and Tren together, JMO. Either way don't run the nolva with it, just the letro(good thread somwhere around with Nark/Big KIG talking about nolva stimulating the PGR hence increasing odds of prolactin related sides).

    For my .02, dump either the tren or deca, and keep the dbol jump start.


    Check out this thread regarding anti-e's and progesterone/prolactin sides http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=234981
    Thanks for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso
    There's nothing wrong w/ running deca and tren together, they both compliment each other very well if u can stand the eod or ed injects.
    Use b6, and nolva at 10mgs ed. And 8 weeks on tren is long enough.
    Why ed or eod injections? Did I miss something?

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    Tren E doesn't require ED or EOD injects.

    What's your previous cycles look like? Stats?
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    If you do go with the cycle use:

    Letrozole @ .25mg ED/EOD
    Cabergoline .25mg E4D
    Proviron 25-50mg ED
    T3 25-50mcg ED

    Avoid SERMS until PCT and extend the test another 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Tren E doesn't require ED or EOD injects.

    What's your previous cycles look like? Stats?
    I have been around the block. My list of substances tried consists of Test E, Tren E, EQ, Dbol , and Masteron . stats I am 5'8 and stay around 210lbs year round. I have some contest pics posted of myself on here if you want a better idea of my frame. I have never gone higher than 750mg on test or higher than 400mg on tren. Highest dbol dose 50mg, highest EQ 600mg. Longest cycle 12 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    If you do go with the cycle use:

    Letrozole @ .25mg ED/EOD
    Cabergoline .25mg E4D
    Proviron 25-50mg ED
    T3 25-50mcg ED

    Avoid SERMS until PCT and extend the test another 3 weeks.
    Do they sell proviron or cabergoline on AR's research site? So I should run the test for 15 weeks? I was hoping you would respond to this thread thanks for the help.

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    big K.I.G should I start the letro two weeks before I start my cycle? I read it takes a while to build up in the blood and should be run prior to starting for that reason.

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    Yeah start the letro at least two weeks before the cycle, i'm not it now (4 weeks plus i think) and it's good shit.

    Proviron is a drug (AAS) so you would find it at most, if any research sites.

    Cabergoline can be found at other research site but Lion doesn't carry it.

    It's best to run test a good few weeks past the tren due to its (tren) powerful metabolites still lingering and can greatly reduce the effectiveness of PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    If you do go with the cycle use:

    Letrozole @ .25mg ED/EOD
    Cabergoline .25mg E4D
    Proviron 25-50mg ED
    T3 25-50mcg ED

    Avoid SERMS until PCT and extend the test another 3 weeks.


    amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Yeah start the letro at least two weeks before the cycle, i'm not it now (4 weeks plus i think) and it's good shit.

    Proviron is a drug (AAS) so you would find it at most, if any research sites.

    Cabergoline can be found at other research site but Lion doesn't carry it.

    It's best to run test a good few weeks past the tren due to its (tren) powerful metabolites still lingering and can greatly reduce the effectiveness of PCT.

    use only these during the cycle, and what would you recommend and at what dosages for PCT?

    thanks,

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    Buildingmuscle, no thread hi-jacking

    Back to the original poster: I like the cycle, looks good and well thought out.
    Weeks 1-12 Test E @ 500-750mg
    Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 400mg (never tried before)
    Weeks 1-10 Tren E @ 400mg (might only do 8 weeks)
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 50-60mg ED
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