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    deca plus eq? bad idea?

    i heard thtat the two negatively effect each other. true?

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    nope i think they good together in low doses

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    well i was gonna run 500mg of both per week with 700 of prop, is that too much?

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    with a var boost in the beginning and t3 at the end, 12 weeks altogether

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    i was actually thinking about running the deca for only the first 6 or 8 weeks until the eq starts working and then finishing up with the the eq and prop. prop will be constant

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    any thoughts anybody, tai, anybody??

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    i was actually thinking about running the deca for only the first 6 or 8 weeks until the eq starts working and then finishing up with the the eq and prop. prop will be constant
    welll thats retarded LOL dont run anything until u learn about the compounds-
    first, both are going to increase ur BP greatly by increasing RBC's and plateletts, if u didnt know this already then u shudnt be playing w/ aas and better do some researching... and i assume from the doses u suggested and run times of deca .. ur fairly new.

    deca shud be ran 12+ weeks
    eq shud be ran about 15weeks

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    ive done 4 cycles, did eq 2 for 12 and 14 weeks. didnt see much diff between the two results wise. both gave me great results. did deca twice, both 8 weeks and also liked that. ive honestly never been told that deca had to be run for 12+ weeks and i wouldnt have assumed so because it works so quickly. to be honest the amount of research ive done about deca is small, ive only gone by the experience my friends and i have had. so would u not run them together at that dose. i found that eq has to be run high to work with me.

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    by the way, where did the steroid profiles list go on this site. since the revamp i havent been able to find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    by the way, where did the steroid profiles list go on this site. since the revamp i havent been able to find it
    goto the tabs below there is a whole section on them

    i would run deca at 300-400mg/wk and eq around 400-600mg/wk

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    i guess ill just go with prop and eq with t3 at the end. is that any better to you? doses will still be 700mg prop and 500mg eq/week. by the way with my previous cycle experience i always had prop as the base. i just didnt bother to mention it cause who does a cycle without test. test dosages were 350, 500, 700, and 700 from cycle 1-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    i guess ill just go with prop and eq with t3 at the end. is that any better to you? doses will still be 700mg prop and 500mg eq/week. by the way with my previous cycle experience i always had prop as the base. i just didnt bother to mention it cause who does a cycle without test. test dosages were 350, 500, 700, and 700 from cycle 1-4
    why T3?
    eq shud be 600+mg /wk IMO its so WEAK.

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    isnt that dosage pretty similar to 500 and 500? if i did 400 deca and 500 eq its sort of the same no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    isnt that dosage pretty similar to 500 and 500? if i did 400 deca and 500 eq its sort of the same no?
    kinda i really would suggest 300mg/wk of deca though if ur mixing it w/ EQ and for growth EQ shud be ran 600mg/wk

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    ive heard that t3 is pretty much the best for cutting. clen is good but it can be degenerative to heart tissue, at least thats what ive read

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    yeah i actually thought i was gonna do 700 eq and prop a week but i didnt know if that was overboard or not

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    so ill just scrap the deca then. do you not think that i should be using t3? winny instead? clen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    ive heard that t3 is pretty much the best for cutting. clen is good but it can be degenerative to heart tissue, at least thats what ive read
    eq is like for women IMO u really kant go overboard w/ it

    T3 is great for cutting but iMO ur diet has to be EVEN MORE SPOT ON when u mess w/ t3 due to the increased metabolism that can quickly metabolize muscle for fuel

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    thats why i wanted to go with alot of test to compensate. i know you have to be anal with t3 so i figured im already 230 with 17%bf. if i did a high dose of test and i ended up eating a little muscle while i at the fat it would be ok. i can still end up being 220 pretty big.

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    i was gonna give my girl eq and winny but i didnt want her clit to turn into a penis and her jaw to get like mr ed. shes half german so shes already got that chizzled thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    thats why i wanted to go with alot of test to compensate. i know you have to be anal with t3 so i figured im already 230 with 17%bf. if i did a high dose of test and i ended up eating a little muscle while i at the fat it would be ok. i can still end up being 220 pretty big.
    diet + cardio will lean u out FAST w/ test.. androgens burn fat fairly effectively.. in all honesty i wouldnt mess w/ T3 since ur thyroid is working JUST FINE no need to use exogenous hormones when u can compensate w/ proper diet..just mah oppinion

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    are my thoughts totally off or am i semi accurate?

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    so no cutting agent at all? cant a lot of cardio eat muscle as well? i already have some clen + t3, thats pretty much why i was going to use it. it was free and i heard it was great. now ur making me think twice

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    give ur woman var!
    btw big clit = BETTER SEX!!!
    but i woudnt use win or anything that will give her a superhero's jaw

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    so what about this?
    15 weeks
    1-17 prop 700mg
    1-15 eq 600-700mg
    1-4, 13-17 var 50mg ed

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    yeah im giving her var for sure. what about the eq? still gonna look the tick you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    so what about this?
    15 weeks
    1-17 prop 700mg
    1-15 eq 600-700mg
    1-4, 13-17 var 50mg ed
    uhh.. run var the last 10-12 weeks..
    var shud be ran ATLEAST 8weeks IMO
    and its not very hepatoxic.. i ran it for 17weeks closer to 200mg ED and my liv was fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    yeah im giving her var for sure. what about the eq? still gonna look the tick you think?
    ROFL i lOVE the tick

    Ticks Brain: Tick.. this is ur brain!
    Tick: eh?!
    Ticks Brain: sorry i havnt been around much lately.. i get distracted by shiny objects.



    anyways NO EQ she dosnt need anything but VAR
    var around 10-20mg ED is AWSOME my woman LOVES IT

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    yeah but that would cost a million fu^&*ng dollars, id love to do that if i could. I would run that and primo for 20 weeks if i could honestly as high as i could

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    how long should she run it? i hear like 8 weeks

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    so i should run var from week 10- 17 at as high as i can afford?

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    i meand 7-17 as high as affordable

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    so i should run var from week 10- 17 at as high as i can afford?
    8weeks at 60mg shud be grand.. i like 80 for most people (i get no gains from it but i dont respond to anything but tren ... my body is STUPID )

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    at the price i can get it car would cost me about 800 bucks for 80mg/day for 10 weeks. i dont know if thats in my budget honestly. maybe 40 ed for 10weeks. but i dont know if that will do anything

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    what about the vagina? 6-8 weeks at 20mg a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    at the price i can get it car would cost me about 800 bucks for 80mg/day for 10 weeks. i dont know if thats in my budget honestly. maybe 40 ed for 10weeks. but i dont know if that will do anything
    run WIN instead!!

    and no price talk boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by caban
    what about the vagina? 6-8 weeks at 20mg a day?
    i would say 12 weeks at 10mg ed

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    ur right on the numbers. good call. you think winny would be just as good? its sorta liver toxic no? tryin to go with the least poisonous substances possible

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    injectable winny is less toxic but still much more toxic than var no?

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    toxicity answer anyone?

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