should i use clen and/or t3?

**biggun24** · 06-11-2006, 01:30 PM

im tring to get a cycle up and going and its going to be a cutter. ive never used clen or t3 so should i just use clen this go round, or should i go ahead and use them both. im not sure of my bf, id say 18-20% id like to go down obviously as low as i can. i know diet and cardio is key, i have that down. my main question is, i work outside just about everday. most of those days its in the direct sunlight also. if either the clen or the t3 will put me in any kind of risk becuase ill be outside in the heat ill just have to rethink my cycle. any opinions? thanks.

**ODC0717** · 06-11-2006, 01:36 PM

you should be fine, just make sure you're drinking plenty of water. 2 gallons minimum, which shouldn't be a problem.

On the T3 I would NOT USE that. Rather use clen and ECA. Actually, that's just what I feel is safer then using T3, I would not recommend you using clen either at this time.

'What?!' you're probably asking. Check it out, if you've got your diet and cardio in check, then dropping BF should't be anything more then time. Drugs will speed it up, but will also allow you a chance to slack in your diet. Not using any drugs, other then and ECAY, would make your weight loss dependant on diet and cardio, rather then the latter two, overshadowed by the drugs. Just a though. I'd go as far as I can without drugs before using them.

**marcus300** · 06-11-2006, 01:38 PM

If your BF is around 18% i would try and drop this naturally with diet and cardio then consider taking something to help get rid of the stubborn fat whats left,

You would also have to tell us the full cycle what your planning on and stats ,cycle history to comment further.

**biggun24** · 06-11-2006, 03:39 PM

ok thanks. my bf% might not be that high either im not sure,ive never had it checked. im 6'3 and 190-195 now, was 200-210 at begining of summer.the only thing else i was going to run is test prop, but i havnt got a lay-out yet. i probably will try clen but ill hold off on the t3 if you guys dont think its nessecary. ill get my cycle layed out soon and post it up, thanks again.

1st cycle test e 500mg/w 10 weeks

2nd 1-4 test prop 75mg/ed
1-12 test e 600mg/w
6-12 50mg winny/ed

this will be my third cycle.

**Chipper Jones78** · 06-11-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by ODC0717

you should be fine, just make sure you're drinking plenty of water. 2 gallons minimum, which shouldn't be a problem.

On the T3 I would NOT USE that. Rather use clen and ECA. Actually, that's just what I feel is safer then using T3, I would not recommend you using clen either at this time.

'What?!' you're probably asking. Check it out, if you've got your diet and cardio in check, then dropping BF should't be anything more then time. Drugs will speed it up, but will also allow you a chance to slack in your diet. Not using any drugs, other then and ECAY, would make your weight loss dependant on diet and cardio, rather then the latter two, overshadowed by the drugs. Just a though. I'd go as far as I can without drugs before using them.

NEGATIVE -Do not use Clen and ECA together, bad idea, unless you know your body to a "T", your better off using T3 and ECA together....My .02 cents

Chip