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    tullemus is offline Junior Member
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    Test+Tren or Test,tren,mast Tai and Pinn

    Actually wanna make it as short as possible...
    Test2g + 1400 trenA 5 hgh and t3+t4 vs. test2g. + 700mast+700 trenA 5 hgh and t3+t4
    will do that for 7 weeks after the below cycle i am now

    Have done 1g.test with 1g.trenA (little trouble with aggression)
    But i didnt control my estrogen back then at all

    I do this right now
    2g.testE+900mg TrenE, 60dbol, 10hgh, 20 slin, 25-T3, 200-T4, 0.625mg Letro eod
    (10 weeks bulk)
    And on this cycle right now there are bassicly very little problems with aggression and high bloodpressure and so on..
    because of the 0.625mg letro eod in that stack to.

    If I dont control it I get insomnia, low libido, pms symtoms, and if I push it to low I get crazy night sweats and little lethargy dry skin, low libido, little depression.

    Did test2g+900mg trenE 4 weeks before I added dbol with 0.625mg letro eod and that dose was just high enough to get me my night sweats but when I added dbol to that stack It whent away and havent have any bad night sweats at all last 2 weeks so that is my experience perfectly balance that damn estro and your save many anoying side effect.. (My experience with it thouhg)

    To the real Question (hehe) would U like to just double the amount of tren so 1400 mg with the test or do the test,mast,tren I am in for a "serious" cut but only to take the worst fat and water I am pretty lean now 9-11 % (weins on stamach and thighs) give or take, goal loose 0.5-1 kg weekly for 7 weeks. I know that mast is dht derivate but then again tren is so unbeliveble strong so if U get that ekstra edge just to double the amount then I think I would opt. for the ekstra tren then..

    I mean the goal is to loose as much fat and keep as much muscle mass in comparing those 2 options (duh) Side effects must be taken care after if there be any.

    And plz no comments on cycle doses and so on because I cant even track it any more. lets just say i began my cut cycle last sept.2005 and started bulking dec. and still running.. The only thing I am interrested in is the stacks compared to each other.. I think I will start out with 1050mg tren for a week or 2 and see if it goes well then up to 1400..

    hopefully some of the more experienced guys will shime in have gotten notice of a few people here with good personal experience..

    tulle
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    The way you wrote the dosages ish sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tullemus
    I mean the goal is to loose as much fat and keep as much muscle mass in comparing those 2 options (duh) Side effects must be taken care after if there be any.


    tulle
    Ill keep my answer short.I prefer option #2 for the reason you are only trying to cut and retain muscle mass.Those doses are plenty(actually you can drop the test down alot,to like a gram).If you were in a mass cycle phase,I'd say go with the higher tren dose.
    I like prop..love masteron ..and used to love tren.I ran pretty much that exact cycle before.You'll like it,but like I stated,you don't need those high doses to cut.Trust me,I made the mistake in the past.I'm much wiser now.Save yourself the extra money on the gear and run lower dose bro.


    ~Pinnacle~

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    tullemus is offline Junior Member
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    Thats pretty much why a asked...
    Because last year I cut with something like 600mast/600tren/1200test weekly
    with hgh, t3 and letro... And got real good results actually, but thougt about upping the tren dose and leave the mast out this time, but then again last year when I got closer and closer to pretty good shape I lost my sleep 6-8 weeks in on that cycle because along the way, I went to low on kcal (2500) I starved, or because of the tren ?

    Maybe It is a good idea and run something similar again and dont go overboard with the diet this time. I was impatient.

    Think it will be something like 1200test/700mast/700tren again this time, and save the money (and health)

    thank you very much...

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