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    Gear and Delivery Services

    I thought I would take a moment and let everyone know my experiences working for an overnight package service and how they handle suspect packages. For some background, I started as a package loader and worked my way up to General Manager of several facilities. I was with them 14 years.

    1. Myth - Delivery companies search for packages containing drugs and gear.
    Fact: They do not. In fact, they are told not to concern themselves with it. These companies do not like involving the cops or feds on any level for the most part. It is a huge hassle and they simply avoid it. No one is searching or looking. What does happen is that the cops find out who dealers are by their careless behavior and then they will look for packages coming to the individual. This rarely happens - rarely.

    2. Myth - A courier will leave a door tag and bust you when you come to pick it up.
    Fact: Untrue. Most drivers are under so much pressure to deliver as quickly as possible, they simply knock once, tag and go. Many times, the door tag is filled out before they get to your house! They are heavily pressured to attempt as many packages as they can in 8 hours. So, they are NOT setting you up, they are simply in a hurry because their managers are beating their asses. The courier does not care a bit about what is inside. The only exception is jewerly. Theft of jewerly from drivers and loaders is management's biggest headache.

    3. Myth - The package does not say "signature required" so they must be setting me up.
    Fact: Unless the package says "Leave at door, No signature required" then they may not leave it. Management is fairly strict about not leaving shit that may be valuable. Since they don't know what is inside, they don't leave it. If your buddy writes "Leave at door, No signature required", they'll leave it 99.9% of the time.

    4. Myth - The door tag means I'll be arrested when I pick up my stuff.
    Fact: Nope. Waltz in with your door tag and show ID. They'll have you sign and away you go. Again, they simply want you to take the package away. Boxes take up room. They don't want it in their space. In my 14 years, we never set up a controlled delivery like that.

    5. Myth - Steroids are a big problem for delivery companies.
    Fact: No. In fact, as long as the shipper pays to ship it, they don't care. They want the package revenue. They do not care about being heros.

    6. Myth - Delivery companies work very closely with the authorities.
    Fact: Only when they must. Typically, the cops get involved when there are big dealers involved. For small, personal use stuff, they don't. I have seen the cops bring in drug sniffiing dogs and walk the packages. They are looking for street drugs, not gear. Anything that remotely looks like medicine is never an issue. The worse thing you can do is conceal stuff in such a way to draw suspicion. For instance, using coffe grounds to throw off a smell or wrapping something in a RiceaRoni box. Use legit packing and bubble pack. Don't concel.

    7. Myth - Delivery companies opened my box for no reason and inspected it.
    Fact: No. They never open anything unless it is poorly packaged and it opens. I always use a "courier Box" provided by the company. They are solid and hold up to the hard handling a courier company uses. Solid, tough and they won't open. You'll never have an issue. Another trick - type out a nice looking address label and make the box look professional. In all my yearsm the druggies always wrote in poor-ass hand writing and the package reeked of suspicion. Any reliable source will know to be professional and make the box look good. The "Leave at door, No signature required" label should also be typed.

    8. Myth - They'll bust me for personal use gear.
    Fact: Highly doubful. Again, they simply don't want to mess with you. You are not big enough. Now, if you start a business of dealing, you are risking your freedom and bunghole. Personal use drugs and gear are not worth the time and effort of a sting operation. Besides, if the box is assembled well and labelled professionally, you'll never be spotted - unless again, someone talks about you to the cops. They go for volume not personal use.

    To summarize, most people's hesitation is unwarranted. If you use a UPS or FedEx - you are 99.9% likely to have a safe, damage-free delivery if you follow what I have stated above. There are always exceptions, but in my 14 years, we never had a controlled delivery for gear and just a few for cocaine and weed. All of those were fairly obvious as well. Cocaine or weed would be leaking out of the poorly-taped box! Don't deal with dumb ass people who can't ship a good box! Don't use house tape. Use clear, 2 inch, plastic tape like you see at ship-it centers. Don't use water-gum tape - that shit gets dry and opens. Secure your contents with bubble wrap and use a strong, carrier-provided box (Oh yeah, they are FREE too!).

    Thanks for reading!

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    Good post-

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    ^^agreed^^

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    informative post.

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    Great post. Thanks for taking the time and writing that out.

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    A much needed post. Good job!

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    I def agree... Actually puts me at ease a bit b/c I'm traveling out of town next week for a week and didn't want to stop taking my gear 6 weeks in. Quick question?? Would you suggest packing needles and bottles seperate, or premade shots..? If something does go wrong and I loose my shit, well.. I'll just be very upset if I lost bottles as apposed to a few shots.. Well I would be upset anyway regaurdless, but you know what I mean.. Thanks fellas

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    great posts...I wish u would of posted this yesterday since I was freaking out with my problem.

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    excellent!

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    Nice read.

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    good post

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    good post paranoids better read this

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    Excellent informtaion. Good post.

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    Great info, Thanks

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    good news. exellent post.

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    nice read

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    thnx for the info, very informative.

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    Great post and good information, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nEvrJuiCed
    I def agree... Actually puts me at ease a bit b/c I'm traveling out of town next week for a week and didn't want to stop taking my gear 6 weeks in. Quick question?? Would you suggest packing needles and bottles seperate, or premade shots..? If something does go wrong and I loose my shit, well.. I'll just be very upset if I lost bottles as apposed to a few shots.. Well I would be upset anyway regaurdless, but you know what I mean.. Thanks fellas
    i work as package handler and if you want your gear shipped....make sure your package is very protected and safe..only time we open packages when they leak..anyway we don't care what's in there in the package,as long don't contain any flamable liquid ...my advice to you, make sure pack your amps or vials with lots cushons from prevent them from breaking it..i personally have seen lots of pharmaceutical vials blocken and leaking..we just rerape with plastic bag and send them out..
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    Just want to junp on the good post band wagon.. and seriously.. I agree..

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    Nice one, I kinda figured it was like that but its always good to hear it straight from the horses mouth.

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    Hey! A useful post! I love those!

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    good stuff

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    Fed ex and UPS are the way to go...the USPS is rough

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    great post

    I agree, ups and fedx good to go, avoid usps if poss. Good thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwolffey
    Fed ex and UPS are the way to go...the USPS is rough
    yup... always breaking stuff.

    Good read

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    hey thanks mate- excellent post

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    good lookin

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    bad ass thanks for making me not worry

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    Is USPS not as safe? I know lots of companies that send their gear out through USPS.

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    Great post from someone who sounds like they are in the know.

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    Great post, I am really impressed with the time you took. And you covered all of my suspicions as well. brownie points for you!

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    good to know... thats a ton of sweat off my sack

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    Gr8 post, I have to ask however, how does this influence international pakages and customs?

    I order my ish from russia and I am wondering what you know about customs

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    Customs can make things a bit more tricky. If your supplier uses his head and packages smartly, there should be no issues. Again, customs will look for unusual shapes and sounds. So, good packaging again is a factor. I would suggest UPS, Fed Ex or DHL. DHL might be my choice for Russia since they have a heavy European presence. All big carriers are specialists with customs. The carriers do not want the packages stopped or inspected. They want to deliver them as soon as possible.

    The description on these packages is key. I would not suggest using medication since there are all sorts of laws concrning medication shipping. I would use coton to stop pills for shaking and would always use a carrier-provided box. Again, they are strong, have their own tape seals and are free. Use a lot of bubble pack so nothing moves. Use a description that is uneventful, like "documents" or "polyester T-shirt". Customs will look for food, drugs, alcohol, porn, plants, medical specimens and anything that may contain insects (wood). They will also look for guns, ammo, hazardous chemicals - that kind of stuff.

    Finally, using a courier service will allow tracking and knowing delivery dates. This is good so you can virtually watch the progress of your shipment. If it gets held up and does not get new scans daily, then it is being delayed by customs or missing a plane, ect. Most shipments I have received from Europe have come in tiny, little USPS parcels. Many will use this method for price and hoping the package will blend in with the billions of others. This is a sound tactic, however, I prefer the overnight guys. It may be more money up front, but it pays for itself in knowing what is going on with your shipment.

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    Good post... I worked as a multi drop driver for a few years and believe me you could write FREE STEROIDS IN BOX and no one would even see it, the handlers just scan routing label bar codes and the drivers just read address labels like you say no one has time to be nosey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSentinal
    Customs can make things a bit more tricky. If your supplier uses his head and packages smartly, there should be no issues. Again, customs will look for unusual shapes and sounds. So, good packaging again is a factor. I would suggest UPS, Fed Ex or DHL. DHL might be my choice for Russia since they have a heavy European presence. All big carriers are specialists with customs. The carriers do not want the packages stopped or inspected. They want to deliver them as soon as possible.

    The description on these packages is key. I would not suggest using medication since there are all sorts of laws concrning medication shipping. I would use coton to stop pills for shaking and would always use a carrier-provided box. Again, they are strong, have their own tape seals and are free. Use a lot of bubble pack so nothing moves. Use a description that is uneventful, like "documents" or "polyester T-shirt". Customs will look for food, drugs, alcohol, porn, plants, medical specimens and anything that may contain insects (wood). They will also look for guns, ammo, hazardous chemicals - that kind of stuff.

    Finally, using a courier service will allow tracking and knowing delivery dates. This is good so you can virtually watch the progress of your shipment. If it gets held up and does not get new scans daily, then it is being delayed by customs or missing a plane, ect. Most shipments I have received from Europe have come in tiny, little USPS parcels. Many will use this method for price and hoping the package will blend in with the billions of others. This is a sound tactic, however, I prefer the overnight guys. It may be more money up front, but it pays for itself in knowing what is going on with your shipment.
    Excuse me sir......
    I had no update on my package trackin since may 15th. can you tell me wut this could mean? This is wut it says at the last update(International item has arrived in the destination country ) thanx
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    sweat deal.....but what if a persons source only uses USPS for tracking number and to make sure package doesnt get lost

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