Sustanon 250 Cycle???

[BionicDruid]

I am getting ready to do my first Cycle of Sustanon . But after reading all of the mixed results of different members I was wandering if somebody could give me some advice. For the 1st week I was going to do 1 amp, weeks 2 to 5 I was going to do 2 amps, and on week 6 back to 1 amp. I had a buddy that had outstanding results on that cycle. I dont know if I should do that or 1 amp per week for 10 weeks. I am looking for a solid gain in size and strength. I already bench 350, but would like the extra kick to put me over 400.

[soccer#3]

have a mod move this thread to somewhere where u would get a better response.. this is the picture section.

try a search

[*Narkissos*]

moving this thread

~Nark

[one8nine]

you either need to get more amps or sell yours and pick a new AAS cause sus needs to be shot eod at least because of the prop unless you are going to do 1/3 of a cc each shot or something like that

do you have pct

[SMAN12b]

First cycle of Sust, or first cycle ever??? Sust is best taken EOD due to the shorter esters to keep blood levels stable and also for the same reason keep the dose the same every week.

WELCOME TO AR,

For more help, please give us your stats and cycle history along with the PCT protocol you have laid out for this cycle

[ticker502]

Your looking for our opinion?

Well heres mine. 6 weeks isnt long enough on Sust. I would reccommend 10 weeks. And im sorry but I personally have never shot anything EOD. Not even Test Prop. In fact im doing A small summer cycle right now running 300mg Deca wk, and 250mg Sust wk, and i shot Every Friday, thats right once a week. Im in my fourth week. I feel perfect and persistantly gaining strength and weight. Everyone does things different, doesnt mean anyones right or wrong because everyones bodys is different. Just like dosages now days? People sky rocket their dosages, i've always wondered why? Lol, When you have a headache and you take aspirin you take 2 or 3 right? So what 5 yrs later you take 10 to 12? Doesnt make sense to me. I've never ran high high dosages, and have had very sufficient gains every cycle. Its hard to get immune to roids if you only cycle twice a year. thats just my 2 cents

[Ejuicer]

Your looking for our opinion?

And im sorry but I personally have never shot anything EOD. Not even Test Prop. In fact im doing A small summer cycle right now running 300mg Deca wk, and 250mg Sust wk, and i shot Every Friday, thats right once a week. Im in my fourth week. I feel perfect and persistantly gaining strength and weight.

Just because you see results from the way you're using doesn't mean you wouldn't see far better results from using it more consistantly. You've already said that you have nothing to compare it to since you've never shot eod before so how do you even know what you're doing is right in the first place without ever comparing it to a method that will keep blood levels more stable?

[Ejuicer]

I am getting ready to do my first Cycle of Sustanon . But after reading all of the mixed results of different members I was wandering if somebody could give me some advice. For the 1st week I was going to do 1 amp, weeks 2 to 5 I was going to do 2 amps, and on week 6 back to 1 amp. I had a buddy that had outstanding results on that cycle. I dont know if I should do that or 1 amp per week for 10 weeks. I am looking for a solid gain in size and strength. I already bench 350, but would like the extra kick to put me over 400.

There's no point to pyramiding your dosage like you're mentioning. That's old school advice that really serves no purpose. 6 weeks isn't enough time for that cycle, it should be doing for a good 10-12 weeks.
What are your stats and cycle exp?

[ticker502]

My last cycle i gained 26pds and held 19pds when cycle was over? You going to see much more than that? I shot it twice a week once. I didnt get any better results from it so im doing once a week this cycle. But no i never have shot it every other day.

And i disagree on milding down before cycle is over. My last week i cut dosages in half and it helps me come off much easier.

[Ejuicer]

My last cycle i gained 26pds and held 19pds when cycle was over? You going to see much more than that? I shot it twice a week once. I didnt get any better results from it so im doing once a week this cycle. But no i never have shot it every other day.

And i disagree on milding down before cycle is over. My last week i cut dosages in half and it helps me come off much easier.

I have no idea exactly how much lean muscle you put on so I can't say you would see better results. What i am saying is it would be good to compare the difference between the 2 method since you've never used the one. Keeping your blood levels stable can definitly help to reduce any sides and maximize gains.

[layinglow]

with sus I allway get the best results front loading, I do 2cc's on sun, then
2 cc's on wen. for four wks then lowering it down 1 cc per wk till I'm off. I've done sus cycles about 6 times this way works best for me.

[layinglow]

just my opinion

[Mr_disfunkshun]

you either need to get more amps or sell yours and pick a new AAS cause sus needs to be shot eod at least because of the prop unless you are going to do 1/3 of a cc each shot or something like that

do you have pct

bro SUS does not need shot EOD it is desigend for slower release of the esters , becasue after your last shot It will still be active up to a month with . with out knowing his stats SUS should be run for 8 weeks MIN 12 week max for a begainer it would depend if you like the front load with sus but recommened to just take 500Mg a week 2 shots per week for the 8 to 12 weeks stright through make sure you have PCT for post cycle and NOVA just incase

running Sus EOD will casue the slower ester to build up causing Un stable blood level Or a high A.S that will hinder the receptors to release in to the blood stream also run the risk of over flow of the high level of test to armosize into estrogen the low end ester release has a 3 day shelf life so twice a week Is Ideal

Sorry for the spelling

[ticker502]

Thank you Mr. dis, i agree, i dont know why people say you must shot it eod anyone i know does it twice a week or once

thats why i love sust. 2-4 weeks after you stop runnin you still get hellasious pumps and fell good.

[shortie]

EOD for Sust can be argued both ways, but it really becomes dose dependant. If you are going to use it a TRT device as it was designed then shooting once a week or even once every two weeks is acceptable as this will provide a slow limited amount of released test into the blood stream. But if you are using it for Bodybuilding purposes with much higher doses then the quantity of test prop in the sust does mandate that for steadier blood levels and lower sides one should shoot EOD. The key difference in th two methods is dose, when shooting 250 mgs weekly or bi weekly then the prop becomes inconsequential at 25 mgs per shot, however if one were doing a thousand mgs of sust per week then a single inject(aside form being a very large volume)would contain 100 mgs of test prop thus throwing your blood levels way out of wack and causing greater side effects.

[shortie]

And ticker-if you gained 26 lbs off of one cycle of very, very low dose sust, you prolly should not use AAS at all the gains you seek could be done naturally. But I do love your avatar bro-

[Mr_disfunkshun]

EOD for Sust can be argued both ways, but it really becomes dose dependant. If you are going to use it a TRT device as it was designed then shooting once a week or even once every two weeks is acceptable as this will provide a slow limited amount of released test into the blood stream. But if you are using it for Bodybuilding purposes with much higher doses then the quantity of test prop in the sust does mandate that for steadier blood levels and lower sides one should shoot EOD. The key difference in th two methods is dose, when shooting 250 mgs weekly or bi weekly then the prop becomes inconsequential at 25 mgs per shot, however if one were doing a thousand mgs of sust per week then a single inject(aside form being a very large volume)would contain 100 mgs of test prop thus throwing your blood levels way out of wack and causing greater side effects.

yes I agree to a point but, the reason with SUS is that by its self IS a great way FOr NEW guys to feel out the A.S But when GUYS such as my self STACK It ,It's a hole new ball game Thus An EOD is not needed Plus Thats why the front load is a great Idea with an ideal front load of 1000mg combind with Others as Deca or as i like to add the extra prop with the cycle thus allowing the stable Blood level

[BionicDruid]

I am 6' 225lbs. I just came back from Iraq and was able to keep a steady weight in the box by eating like a horse and lifting as much as I could. Working out at midnite in 120 degree heat sucks. I am going to be out of the military in a week, and it will be my first cycle ever. With all of the mixed answers I recieved I am still thinking about a 10 week cycle with one shot per week at 250mg.

[shortie]

Just start the thread, "What do you recommend for a first cycle", any mod/vet or experienced memeber will highly recommend a single ester only cycle of Test E or Cyp for 10-12 wks @4-500mgs/wk-Most will not agree with running sust first go round and most will say that such a light dose is just a bit over replacement values-Anyhow, it's up to you be safe and good luck bro-

[SMAN12b]

Just start the thread, "What do you recommend for a first cycle", any mod/vet or experienced memeber will highly recommend a single ester only cycle of Test E or Cyp for 10-12 wks @4-500mgs/wk-Most will not agree with running sust first go round and most will say that such a light dose is just a bit over replacement values-Anyhow, it's up to you be safe and good luck bro-

Got to agree with shortie here!! Although he can use Sust, he is better off using a single ester instead of a multi ester Just for the simple fact he has NO clue as to how his body will react to the esters. Much better to introduce ONE ester into his system so he gains knowledge of it and can build off of it instead of not knowing which ester may or may not be giving him side effects or gains. JMHO

[mastermass212]

after doing sust 500mgs 2 times a week for 10 weeks should a guy do a pct cycle and if so for how long and with what
i have novaldex and tribulus

[BionicDruid]

Still allot of mixed answers. I should be home next week and plan on starting my cycle then. I have 10 amps of sustanon 250 by organon. For my first cycle ever 1 amp a week is not enough? I am thinking of 1 amp per week for 10 weeks. Do I really need to do 2 per week?

[Lavinco]

If you don't have any other compound like tren or something then you can do every 3 day injection with sust with great results and stable blood levels.

[TheSentinal]

Still allot of mixed answers. I should be home next week and plan on starting my cycle then. I have 10 amps of sustanon 250 by organon. For my first cycle ever 1 amp a week is not enough? I am thinking of 1 amp per week for 10 weeks. Do I really need to do 2 per week?

Bro - I am doing a SUS cycle now with outstanding results (week 9). People are complimenting me all over how I look. The stuff works regardless of popularity. Here is what I am doing:

WK 1-4 30MG Dbol
WK 1-12 500 MG Sus 250 (Friday AM / Monday PM 1 MG)
Wk 1-12 Adex EOD .5

As with any cycle, diet, sleep and intensity in the gym are key.
Dbol will kick start your gains and I felt the Sus kick in around week 5.

[Ejuicer]

If you don't have any other compound like tren or something then you can do every 3 day injection with sust with great results and stable blood levels.

Great results, maybe. Stable blood levels, no.

I'll post this chart again of the comparison between sust injections:


Every day

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619



Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

Make an opinion for yourself on which is the most efficient way to use sustanon .

[clements22]

Bro - I am doing a SUS cycle now with outstanding results (week 9). People are complimenting me all over how I look. The stuff works regardless of popularity. Here is what I am doing:

WK 1-4 30MG Dbol
WK 1-12 500 MG Sus 250 (Friday AM / Monday PM 1 MG)
Wk 1-12 Adex EOD .5

As with any cycle, diet, sleep and intensity in the gym are key.
Dbol will kick start your gains and I felt the Sus kick in around week 5.

what week did it kick in for you??

[mamias20918756]

bro SUS does not need shot EOD it is desigend for slower release of the esters , becasue after your last shot It will still be active up to a month with . with out knowing his stats SUS should be run for 8 weeks MIN 12 week max for a begainer it would depend if you like the front load with sus but recommened to just take 500Mg a week 2 shots per week for the 8 to 12 weeks stright through make sure you have PCT for post cycle and NOVA just incase

running Sus EOD will casue the slower ester to build up causing Un stable blood level Or a high A.S that will hinder the receptors to release in to the blood stream also run the risk of over flow of the high level of test to armosize into estrogen the low end ester release has a 3 day shelf life so twice a week Is Ideal

Sorry for the spelling

Actually shooting Susta EOD is best when trying to keep blood levels stable bro...This is due to the test prop, which must be shot EOD

[Ejuicer]

running Sus EOD will casue the slower ester to build up causing Un stable blood level Or a high A.S that will hinder the receptors to release in to the blood stream also run the risk of over flow of the high level of test to armosize into estrogen the low end ester release has a 3 day shelf life so twice a week Is Ideal

Sorry for the spelling

I just noticed that comment. That is very incorrect.

[mamias20918756]

I'm on susta now too, i'm heading to week 2 and i can already feel the test doing it's work, i know it doesn't kick in until week 5-6 but i can see it's effects in power and some size (due to water retention)

[mamias20918756]

I just noticed that comment. That is very incorrect.

Ditto!

[clinteastwd]

im curently on a sustonon cycle ill be stretching it for 12 weeks. i started at 250mg a wk 4 2 wks it was a waist when i took it to 500 mgs baboon could not believ the difference. dude try 500mgs every 7 to 10 days .

[Lavinco]

Great results, maybe. Stable blood levels, no.

I'll post this chart again of the comparison between sust injections:


Every day

days.. amount taken.......the amount in the blood stream
1 ..............200mgs ................190mgs
2 ..............200 .......................351
3 ..............200 .......................487
4 ..............150 .......................555
5 ..............150 .......................612
6 ..............100 .......................613
7 ..............100 .......................614
Week 2
8 ..............100 .......................615
9 ..............100 .......................616
10.............100 .......................616
11.............100 .......................617
12.............100 .......................617
13.............100 .......................617
14.............100 .......................618
Week 3
15............100 .......................618
16............100 .......................618
17............100 .......................618
18............100 .......................618
19............100 .......................618
20............100 .......................619
21............100 .......................619
Week 4
22............100 .......................619
23............100 .......................619
24............100 .......................619
25............100 .......................619
26............100 .......................619
27............100 .......................619
28............100 .......................619
Week 5
29...,........100 .......................619
30............100 .......................619
31............100 .......................619
32............100 .......................619
33............100 .......................619
34............100 .......................619
35............100 .......................619
Week 6
36............100 .......................619
37............100 .......................619
38............100 .......................619
39............100 .......................619
40............100 .......................619
41............100 .......................619
42............100 .......................619
Week 7
43............100 .......................619
44............100 .......................619
45............100 .......................619
46............100 .......................619
47............100 .......................619
48............100 .......................619
49............100 .......................619
Week 8
50............100 .......................619
51............100 .......................619
52............100 .......................619
53............100 .......................619
54............100 .......................619
55............100 .......................619
56............100 .......................619



Here is the normal 3 times a week chart

Monday, Wednesday, Friday shots
It never gets stable, just develops a pattern after week 7


1 ...250 .......................238
2 ...0 ..........................201
3 ...250 .......................409
4 ...0 ..........................346
5 ...250 .......................532
6 ...0 ..........................451
7 ...0 ..........................384
Week 2
8 ...250 .......................566
9 ...0 ..........................480
10...250 .......................646
11...0 ..........................547
12...250 .......................703
13...0 ..........................595
14...0 ..........................507
Week 3
15...250 .......................672
16...0 ..........................569
17...250 .......................722
18...0 ..........................611
19...250 .......................758
20...0 ..........................642
21...0 ..........................547
Week 4
22...250 .......................706
23...0 ..........................598
24...250 .......................747
25...0 ..........................632
26...250 .......................776
27...0 ..........................657
28...0 ..........................560
Week 5
29...250 .......................717
30...0 ..........................607
31...250 .......................755
32...0 ..........................639
33...250 .......................782
34...0 ..........................662
35...0 ..........................564
Week 6
36...250 .......................721
37...0 ..........................610
38...250 .......................757
39...0 ..........................641
40...250 .......................784
41...0 ..........................663
42...0 ..........................656
Week 7
43...250 .......................722
44...0 ..........................611
45...250 .......................758
46...0 ..........................642
47...250 .......................784
48...0 ..........................664
49...250 .......................566
Week 8
50...250 .......................722
51...0 ..........................611
52...250 .......................758
53...0 ..........................642
54...250 .......................784
55...0 ..........................664
56...0...........................566

Make an opinion for yourself on which is the most efficient way to use sustanon.

Your chart is very convincing. Where did you get that info?

[Outlaw**]

why not just do prop if youre gonna shoot ed?

[Tank75]

we sound very similar... i am in my first cycle as well with Sust and my goal of a 405 bench seems to be in line with your goals as well. i find it suprising that no one has asked for your stats. I think in order to get a good feel for what you should be doing, we know a little more about you.

personally, I am 6'0 270lbs (17%BF) and started out my cycle of sust with 30mg dbol to kick start for the first 4 weeks. I am just using 250mg of sust a week injected on Sunday nights and Wednesday mornings and I am very happy with the gains right now after 5 weeks. My bench is around 375 and I've got about 7 weeks left on cycle. My lower body lifts increased as well, but the dbol caused lower back pumps/cramps that seemed to get in the way of me going too heavy on squats and deadlifts.

I would encourage you to make your cycle longer than 6 weeks because it may take a good 4 weeks before you start to see the results of the sust kicking in. also, you may want to add some low dose dbol to kickstart. this may be a bit agressive for a first cycle, but I only went up to 30mg/day and I feel that this was a good decision.

most importantly make sure your diet, workout plan, and resting are all in check before you start.

good luck and work hard.
-Tank75

[oswaldosalcedo]

Still allot of mixed answers. I should be home next week and plan on starting my cycle then. I have 10 amps of sustanon 250 by organon. For my first cycle ever 1 amp a week is not enough? I am thinking of 1 amp per week for 10 weeks. Do I really need to do 2 per week?

sure......................lol.............
you can use sust, of course 1 or 2 amps, 1 or 2 times a week.
8-10 weeks.
thats all, and a lot of calories and protein (2-3 gr x kg)
the prop in sust, just will be a kick.