Are steroids that bad what people think about them??

[seriouslifter]

I honestly dont think they are bad, well maybe one day it will catch up down the road with bad liver and heart. All the information it is given about them with the sides and so on. It really isnt that bad. The media puts it out like its horrible and it will kill you. You can function as a normal person everyday and be on it. People have to agree with me.

[biglouie250]

yes, the same can be said of alcohol, and weed in moderation. the problem is you have a few douche bags that ruin it for everyone. fyi i dont smoke, but ill throw it out there as an example.

[HORSE~]

This seem's like lounge material to me

Yes the media is full of shit when it come's to aas

[Growingpains]

The way I think about it is this way. People (normal people who don't care about lifting, body, sports, etc.) are afraid of what they don't understand. The media capitalizes on this by giving great horror stories on freak experience (ahem, Thanks greg valentino) and exploiting these stories.

Who cares about the guy who was saved from aging and from bone loss by a 200mg/week shot of test E? Not that many people. Who cares about barry bonds cracking records and then being scapegoated for test positive to aas use. answer - the general public.


Anything is bad when it is abused in my opinion. For me, for example, lifting has given me so much direction and drive that I can't thank myself enough for starting.

[Liftnainez]

Healthy adult men that take AAS in moderation and under the proper care and supervison (monitor and test yourself through out) will be fine.. Smoking, drinking, eating like some people do are far worse for your health..

[JohnnyB]

All the horror stories are mostly on teens using gear, all the media says about AAS is true when it comes to teens. Their mood is already swinging back and forth, add some more hormone in there and you'll have what is known as "roid rage ". Take the hormone away, you'll have a depressed teen, who is already having a hard time trying to figure out who he is. Now that he's depressed who knows what he'll do, but whatever it is the media will play it up, when they find out about it.

JohnnyB

[guest589745]

The safety of steroid use lies within the user not the hormones necessarily.

[*Narkissos*]

Steroids are bad.

[IBdmfkr]

I'll never touch them, that's for sure!

[one8nine]

somethign that my coach told me that i will never forget is moderation is the key to life, you need a balance, but too much of anything is bad, just dont over do it and even i you had permanent problems they wont be terrible

i would rather be jacked as hell and die at 70 than live a 100% natural life and die a regular size at 85

its a lifestyle, not the aas but they are a part of it that we love and get excited about

[shortie]

As with any other substance, "all things in moderation".

[anaBROLIC]

steroids are bad, mmmkayy?

[PlasticFuture112]

i would quit taking steroids cuz they are "bad", but then again, nobody like a quitter. AAS= way too much stereotype from idiots who ruin it for the rest. Planned out cycles and forums like this who offer help, guidance, and suggestions that are ultimately your own decision in the end are what allows one to take them the correct way. Then you have the people who take them with complete disregard to safety in the notion that as long as they get bick who gives a damn. Unplanned cycles, opinions from experienced people and misuse of any form of AAS (ie-overdrawing,aspirating,pct,etc.) are what gets a person killed or hurt. And its sorry to say but alot of this occurs with people at a young demographic. They are soo cought up in the "moment" that many will do whatever necessary to fit in or impress. they hold complete lack of judgement for what they are doing and get hurt. This followed by the raging parent who blames the media, sportsworld,bodybuilding,and society to where they gather attention like MADD. This is utter BS, and its sad that AAS cannot be viewed as something other than deadly and harmful. Ok enough blabber, bye-bye

[x_moe]

my neighbour is suffering from brain cancer bcoz of steroids

[PlasticFuture112]

my neighbour is suffering from brain cancer bcoz of steroids

so then whats your purpose of hanging around a forum like this? and your one-liner sentence is hardly enough clerical evidence that could make even a dog believe you. can i call this post a little if you ask me. But hey, prove me wrong and i will disregard this whole post. Thanks, and welcome to the board.

[one8nine]

my neighbour is suffering from brain cancer bcoz of steroids

i wish i had a neighbour

[marcus300]

You have to get a good balance between AAS and you, its the abuse what causes problems not Steroids

[guest589745]

my neighbour is suffering from brain cancer bcoz of steroids

Are you sure YOU arent suffering from some type of brain (mental) illness?

[x_moe]

your funny, no im not suffering from anything,,, and why is it too hard to believe!? when i was under treatment coz of low test level and other things, my doctor told me that steroids do cause brain cancer to some ppl, and my neighbour does have this problem right now, but i think he just did way too many cycles in his life time that caused this to happen, which i dont think ill ever do that much

[shortie]

my neighbour is suffering from brain cancer bcoz of steroids

If you believe roids are bad-LEAVE!! And if you believe that they cause brain cancer(never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever been proven)then you believe they are bad, so LEAVE!

[x_moe]

If you believe roids are bad-LEAVE!! And if you believe that they cause brain cancer(never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever been proven)then you believe they are bad, so LEAVE!

i take risks

[PlasticFuture112]

i take risks

then do yourself a favor and not even mention useless banter in the first place. you made a great first impression on the rest of the board blabbing on about something you "think" could be the cause. Go get a PhD then do your analytical research then maybe you will have some ground to say stupid shit like you did.

[x_moe]

then do yourself a favor and not even mention useless banter in the first place. you made a great first impression on the rest of the board blabbing on about something you "think" could be the cause. Go get a PhD then do your analytical research then maybe you will have some ground to say stupid shit like you did.

i didnt think, they told me it was the cause, i dont see why i shouldnt believe a doctor when he said steroid caused his brain cancer and believe bunch of ppl who have experience off forum pages and few cycles

[x_moe]

you guys know steroids have many negative effects, these negative effects might have caused the brain cancer but at the end it is steroids that started it

-Commonly Reported Negative Effects:

Increased risk of mood disturbances including mania and depression
Increased risk of psychosis
Increased risk of aggressive acts which may injure self or others
Increased risk of cardiovascular disease
Increased risk of liver disease and cancer
Increased risk of kidney disease and cancer
Risk of HIV and Hepatitis B & C from contaminated needles
Acne
Bad breath
Decreased sex drive
Baldness
Water retention
Muscle cramps
Aching joints
Increased risk of muscle tears
Increased risk of tendon injuries
Increased risk of nose bleads
Insomnia
Decrease in immune system effectiveness
Infertility
Increased risk of prostate enlargement and cancer
Decreased testicular size
Gynecomastia (growth of breasts)

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-Immune system From Wikipedia:

The immune system is the system of specialized cells and organs that protect an organism from outside biological influences. When the immune system is functioning properly, it protects the body against bacteria and viral infections, destroying cancer cells and foreign substances. If the immune system weakens, its ability to defend the body also weakens, allowing pathogens, including viruses that cause common colds and flu, to grow and flourish in the body. The immune system also performs surveillance of tumor cells, and immune suppression has been reported to increase the risk of certain types of cancer.

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could be more than this that caused it

[marcus300]

you guys know steroids have many negative effects, these negative effects might have caused the brain cancer but at the end it is steroids that started it

-Commonly Reported Negative Effects:

Increased risk of mood disturbances including mania and depression
Increased risk of psychosis
Increased risk of aggressive acts which may injure self or others
Increased risk of cardiovascular disease
Increased risk of liver disease and cancer
Increased risk of kidney disease and cancer
Risk of HIV and Hepatitis B & C from contaminated needles
Acne
Bad breath
Decreased sex drive
Baldness
Water retention
Muscle cramps
Aching joints
Increased risk of muscle tears
Increased risk of tendon injuries
Increased risk of nose bleads
Insomnia
Decrease in immune system effectiveness
Infertility
Increased risk of prostate enlargement and cancer
Decreased testicular size
Gynecomastia (growth of breasts)

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-Immune system From Wikipedia:

The immune system is the system of specialized cells and organs that protect an organism from outside biological influences. When the immune system is functioning properly, it protects the body against bacteria and viral infections, destroying cancer cells and foreign substances. If the immune system weakens, its ability to defend the body also weakens, allowing pathogens, including viruses that cause common colds and flu, to grow and flourish in the body. The immune system also performs surveillance of tumor cells, and immune suppression has been reported to increase the risk of certain types of cancer.

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could be more than this that caused it

Id hate to be at a party with you, cheer up

[judge_dread]

i didnt think, they told me it was the cause, i dont see why i shouldnt believe a doctor when he said steroid caused his brain cancer and believe bunch of ppl who have experience off forum pages and few cycles

Okay who said that docs always know what they talking about? Obviously this doc must be one of these narrow minded assholes that know everything!
Had it ever passed your mind that your poor neighbor had already a pre existed condition? millions of ppl dying from diseases, do steroids have to do with that?
Do not make such statements man they are ridiculous as hell...

[x_moe]

Okay who said that docs always know what they talking about? Obviously this doc must be one of these narrow minded assholes that know everything!
Had it ever passed your mind that your poor neighbor had already a pre existed condition? millions of ppl dying from diseases, do steroids have to do with that?
Do not make such statements man they are ridiculous as hell...

no they'r not ridiculous, wether steroids caused it or not i was tryin to explain how a doc. told me this and i believed him coz he's a doc., and not that i came up with the "brain cancer" disease on my own, coz i dont appreciate it when someone comes here and acts like a smart ass by finding a post that could be wrong and say that i come here and give bullshit posts and lie.

[THE_DOME]

you guys know steroids have many negative effects, these negative effects might have caused the brain cancer but at the end it is steroids that started it

-Commonly Reported Negative Effects:

Increased risk of mood disturbances including mania and depression
Increased risk of psychosis
Increased risk of aggressive acts which may injure self or others
Increased risk of cardiovascular disease
Increased risk of liver disease and cancer
Increased risk of kidney disease and cancer
Risk of HIV and Hepatitis B & C from contaminated needles
Acne
Bad breath
Decreased sex drive
Baldness
Water retention
Muscle cramps
Aching joints
Increased risk of muscle tears
Increased risk of tendon injuries
Increased risk of nose bleads
Insomnia
Decrease in immune system effectiveness
Infertility
Increased risk of prostate enlargement and cancer
Decreased testicular size
Gynecomastia (growth of breasts)

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-Immune system From Wikipedia:

The immune system is the system of specialized cells and organs that protect an organism from outside biological influences. When the immune system is functioning properly, it protects the body against bacteria and viral infections, destroying cancer cells and foreign substances. If the immune system weakens, its ability to defend the body also weakens, allowing pathogens, including viruses that cause common colds and flu, to grow and flourish in the body. The immune system also performs surveillance of tumor cells, and immune suppression has been reported to increase the risk of certain types of cancer.

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could be more than this that caused it

So you read this and all the negative sides are increased no for sure then take a look at this something that is legal, and also has been proven when smoking this will occure

Diseases Associated with Smoking

Atherosclerosis Acute bronchitis Allergies
Hypertension Chronic bronchitis Rhinitis
Heart disease Emphysema Sinusitis
Coronary artery disease Lung cancer Other infections
Peripheral vascular disease Mouth cancer Burns
Myocardial infarction Tongue cancer Peptic ulcers
Stroke Laryngeal cancer Varicose veins
Polycythemia Esophageal cancer Hiatal hernia
Low birth weight infants Bladder cancer Osteoporosis
Increased infant mortality Kidney cancer Periodontal disease
Alzheimer’s disease Pancreatic cancer Senility
Vitamin/mineral Cervical cancer Impotence
deficiencies

Symptoms and Problems Associated with Smoking

Heartburn Surgical complications
Allergies Nutritional deficiencies
Angina Pectoris Stains on teeth and fingers
Hoarseness Increased pregnancy risks
Cough Increased caffeine use
Headaches Increased alcohol use
Memory loss More divorce
Anxiety More job changes
Fatigue More home changes
Lowered immunity Fires, at home and outdoors
Low sexuality Higher insurance rates
Cold hands and feet Wasted money
Leg pains


Its amazing that something like smoking can be legalized only becuase the government can tax it and make money off of it. Hands down smoking is far more hazardous on the body than steroids

[Smak]

no they'r not ridiculous, wether steroids caused it or not i was tryin to explain how a doc. told me this and i believed him coz he's a doc., and not that i came up with the "brain cancer" disease on my own, coz i dont appreciate it when someone comes here and acts like a smart ass by finding a post that could be wrong and say that i come here and give bullshit posts.

My dad's a doc and doesn't know shit about steroids . What's your point?

Go jump off a bridge. It will cure your brain cancer.

Do you believe me?

[x_moe]

My dad's a doc and doesn't know shit about steroids . What's your point?

Go jump off a bridge. It will cure your brain cancer.

Do you believe me?

what are you tryin to be a smart ass ?!

there is a diff. kinds of docs bro, he works on treating patients with hormone problems, so id think he would know alot of shit about steroids.

[PlasticFuture112]

what are you tryin to be a smart ass ?!

there is a diff. kinds of docs bro, he works on treating patients with hormone problems, so id think he would know alot of shit about steroids.

well hes needs to sit down and fix your hormones cuz something not right there. Purely a chemical imbalance in you. that must suck

[x_moe]

well hes needs to sit down and fix your hormones cuz something not right there. Purely a chemical imbalance in you. that must suck

no im oright, but thanks for being concerned

[shortie]

you guys know steroids have many negative effects, these negative effects might have caused the brain cancer but at the end it is steroids that started it In case no one else caught it-WTF did you just say here??? Now it's the side effects that cause cancer?? But steroids started it???

-Commonly Reported Negative Effects:

Increased risk of mood disturbances including mania and depression Yup I'm a believer
Increased risk of psychosis Bullshit, any of you guys go psycho?
Increased risk of aggressive acts which may injure self or others Well, Yeah!
Increased risk of cardiovascular disease Not so much as that of fatass couch potatoes, but maybe a little
Increased risk of liver disease and cancer Bullshit, Bullshit, and Bullshit, show me a medical study that conclusively says this, not this limited assortment of derrogatory and unscientific statements
Increased risk of kidney disease and cancer See above
Risk of HIV and Hepatitis B & C from contaminated needles Yeah, juicers are world renowned needle sharers
Acne Okely dokely
Bad breath Duhnno, but pizza will give you bad breath and I reuse to believe it's evil
Decreased sex drive Only if you take the cycles recommended on wikipedia
Baldness Why not
Water retention Uh huh
Muscle cramps So does menstration, they should outlaw that!
Aching joints Had em before AAS
Increased risk of muscle tears Getting off the couch increases the chance of muscle tears
Increased risk of tendon injuries See above
Increased risk of nose bleads I assume you mean bleeds
Insomnia God bless Tren
Decrease in immune system effectiveness It's true, but moderate
Infertility Condition reverses when the substances are removed
Increased risk of prostate enlargement and cancer Possibly, but most of what I have read inidcates this is mostly due to DHT and not Test, so just keep the 5Alpha in check and you should avoid this
Decreased testicular size Once again, condition reverses itself upon cessation of AAS
Gynecomastia (growth of breasts) Well, yeah, without a good AI of course

Click here If I wanted to read some more regurgitated Bullshit with no science behind I would click here
-Immune system From Wikipedia:

The immune system is the system of specialized cells and organs that protect an organism from outside biological influences. When the immune system is functioning properly, it protects the body against bacteria and viral infections, destroying cancer cells and foreign substances. If the immune system weakens, its ability to defend the body also weakens, allowing pathogens, including viruses that cause common colds and flu, to grow and flourish in the body. The immune system also performs surveillance of tumor cells, and immune suppression has been reported to increase the risk of certain types of cancer Yes your Immune system plays a role in cancers, but you said steroids caused his brain cancer, not that they effect it negatively, but that they cause it-PROVE THIS!!!

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could be more than this that caused it

Just some thoughts for you in bold

[x_moe]

Just some thoughts for you in bold

your thoughts dont matter bro, aslong as all those negative effects have a possibility to occur

[HammerStrength]

I agree with what some of the posters said before, the keyword here is ABUSE. Almost anything can be bad if you abuse it. I remember watching a special on steroids and basically there is no difinitive proof that steroids is as bad as people are making it out to be.

[Stumbo]

anybody have the link to that video that 20/20 did on steroids ?

[Stumbo]

your thoughts dont matter bro, aslong as all those negative effects have a possibility to occur

Yes his thoughts do matter, careful what you say bro.

Possible? Lol, a lot of things are "possible". Its more about what is likely.

[Othello]

Anything taken to excess is bad...be it religion, politics, alcohol or AAS...there are worse horror stories linked to smoking yet because this is a lucrative business, you dont hear much about them...ditto for drinking...

in my opinion, steroids at least, help promote fitness and working out...you see in this day and age, a lot of people have come to depend on some sort of a remedy to their daily problems/ailments....be it electronic, mechanical or chemical...

for them, the myth of the magical pill is there to stay...thats y you have a lot of scammers making money out of selling people drugs to help then loose fat etc...

but to come back to topic, I agree to the following: why not use steroids to help you build that lean look? or get up from your couch and tone those abs? also, if business men would look at the broader picture, 'roids are a more lucrative business that alcohol or tobacco if not both...I mean people are paying thousands of dollrs for a liposuction, a tummy-tuck etc...legalise it, make people more aware through decent litterature, and see the results... I have been reading this particular board for a t least 3 years now...it is a great source of info, nevertheless, it does not beat a proper awareness campaign...people have to be spoonfed...on forums and discussion boards, you have to read between the lines...and not many people like this...it took me around 15 years of working out and "research" (if i can call it this) to finally muster up the courage and go the chemical way...dont regret it a bit...coz I know what I am doing...plus I do it scientifically...

I live in a country where its not illegal to purchase some products like test, deca etc from pharmacies...it is illegal to use them in some sports competitions, but not for Mr Average Joe.... there are many countries like this in the middle east or even some parts of europe...as far as I know, there are no horror stories from abuse or anything...at least not as horrific as u have them in USA...

hopefully with time, poiliticians and lawmakers will wake up and see the light

[x_moe]

Possible? Lol, a lot of things are "possible". Its more about what is likely.

but things are still possbile, u agree right! so it is possible that the guy has brain cancer coz of steroids ,, it is possible that everyone on here who disagreed with me might be wrong and too sad that they always think theyr right.. we were talking about something that already happened bro, and not something that is likely to happen. so pls read the posts carefully

[Ufa]

Asteroids are not cool.