insane mass cycle....need input

[lifthard2005]

Wk 1-12 andropen @ 550mg/wk
Wk 1-10 NPP @ 400mg/wk
Wk 1-4 dbol @ 50mg ed
Wk 4 HCG @ 500iu x 2
Wk 7-10 anadrol @ 50mg ed
Wk 12 HCG @ 1500iu x 3
Wk 13-15 Prop @ 300mg/wk
Wk 13-16 Tbol @ 50mg ed
Wk 13-16 Primo @ 500mg /wk
Wk 1-16 proviron @ 50mg ed
Wk 10-16 HCTZ @ 1 tab/day


8th cycle, 34, 9%bf, 245lbs........

[guest589745]

Thats insane alright.



I'll let someone more familiar with certain hormones comment.

[Lavinco]

There's a lot of compounds there.

I'll pass too.

[lzicc]

I'm no expert, but I wouldn't run that many orals and for that long.

[SMAN12b]

WTF??? why would you want to do that much ? You can get great results with a hell of a lot LESS compounds adn stress to your body....but to each his own.......

[lifthard2005]

a vet proposed this to me and im here getting feedback to see what others think bros.....

i think it is too many orals too long myself.....

is there anything positive about this cycle AND what should I drop to make this better? Change doses too anywhere?

[SMAN12b]

a vet proposed this to me and im here getting feedback to see what others think bros.....

i think it is too many orals too long myself.....

is there anything positive about this cycle AND what should I drop to make this better? Change doses too anywhere?

Sure we can help you tweek it, but we need more info on you and your previous cycle experience, what you used, doses, PCT, age, height, weight, BF%, food intake, training, GOALS for this cycle.....

that will help us determine it with you

[G-1000]

OK not that good.

Wk 1-12 andropen @ 550mg/wk OK
Wk 1-13 NPP @ 400mg/wk Would do 500mg
Wk 1-4 dbol @ 50mg ed OK
Wk 4 HCG @ 500iu x 2 OK
Wk 7-10 anadrol @ 50mg ed NO need. I would replace the d-bol with this 1-4
Wk 12 HCG @ 1500iu x 3 OK
Wk 12-17 Prop @ 300mg/wk Up to 500mg
Wk 12-17 Tbol @ 50mg ed OK
Wk 12-17 Primo @ 500mg /wk OK
Wk 1-17 proviron @ 50mg ed OK
Wk 10-16 HCTZ @ 1 tab/day OK

OK i mad it better.

[Stumbo]

I got a question about specific workout routines to build the most mass.

Nice hijack bro, try the workout forum.

[lifthard2005]

I got a question about specific workout routines to build the most mass. I hear different things about how many days to spend in the gym and how many rest days to have. So any input from others would help ALOT. Thanks
1.
chest/tri/shoulder
legs
back/bi/forearm
rest
(REPEAT)

2.
chest/tri/shoulder
rest
legs
rest
back/bi/forearm
rest
(REPEAT)

3.
chest/tri
shoulder/forearm
rest
legs
back/bi
rest
(REST)

All three workout plans Im sure are good but I am really looking to bulk up in the least amount of time. I will be taking Superdrol while for three weeks and I need to know which plan to follow to see the best results. Thanks all!

bro, please start your own thread....dont jack mine, thank you

[STAYHUNGRY]

A lot of people consider Paul Borressson a maniac in the dosages of steroids he suggested, but he actually made a lot of sense. He suggested VERY short cycles, because ALL of the serious problems associated with steroids come from LONG term use(Kidney, liver,etc). A cycle of 4-5 weeks would be very unlikely to cause any lasting health problems. Borresson would reccomend stuff like 3000mg of test per week, 100mg Dbol per day,etc. However you would put on 40lbs in 5 weeks, your natural test would only be suppressed for a week or two(it takes a while for the LH and FSH to become desensitized), so it would recover quickly and you would maintain much of that mass. You would end up after cutting up(which I assume one wants to do) with 20lbs of SOLID muscle in 5 weeks and no health problems. No tapering, no nothing. I am just posting this as information, to research it, I DO NOT necessarily recommend it and have not done it. I just know that some dudes have had good results and no health problems from this kind of really short, super dose cycle.

SH

[D-Money]

Huh? Too many compounds this cycle makes no since to me. I would keep the test, anadrol , hcg . Replace the primo with tren . Try some hgh, and slin.

[yom]

looks to complicated . just use a few compounds just run the andropen , nnp or primo proviron ,hcg ,dbol or prop at the start

[lifthard2005]

my progression and why my doses are what they are.....

2003 i was a pot smoking, beer drinking knucklehead......and as the time goes ion, i clean up my act and lifthard!!

[Vectork39]

nice progression

[minihulkwestcoast]

What is NPP?

[Growingpains]

I would say good bye to your liver if you decide to run all those orals. Looking good in the those pictures. Got any more?

GP

[Booz]

too many compounds for my liking mate...........
cut some of them out and up some doses thats wat id do imo................

[sofus99]

Dude, you need some more 17aa orals in there, or your liver may actually survive.