Cycle Advice.....

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-15-2006, 03:47 PM

If i run test c 300 mgs 1 cc a week for 10 wks
Deca for 10 weeks 1 cc

What gear should i use for PCT ? i know when to start them but what is best for the gear im going to use ????

Stats: 6 foot... 220lbs 13%bf... 21 yrs old .... lifting for over 5 yrs... Was in 2 competitions and placed 1st in both
BTW i am a beginner

**Liftnainez** · 07-15-2006, 04:02 PM

some people have success with injecting once a week. Being a beginner Im sure gains will also see gains. It is more optimal to inject 2 time per week to keep levels stable.. pct you can run the nolva/clomid, the proviron /nolva... go to the pct forum and research a bit.. one more thing- I would advise more research before you decide to run this cycle as well..

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-15-2006, 04:06 PM

Don't run Test & Decca for you first cycle.
You won't be able to tell if your estrogen or progesterone sensitive.
Test only for your first cycle will have alot of gains.

**pdog80** · 07-15-2006, 04:09 PM

Do some more research before you consider AAS. Also, what are you stats? Age, height, weight, diet, bf%, lifting experience?

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-15-2006, 04:14 PM

my first 2 cycles i just ran test itself pdog.. thats why i want to add deca my good man ?... stats are listed in orignal forum at top

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-15-2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ

my first 2 cycles i just ran test itself pdog.. thats why i want to add deca my good man ?

2 cycles ....Then your not a beginner, you should be more educated on the subject! I bet you last cycles you were very disappointed with , do to lack of knowledge on aas.

300mgs of test for 3rd cycle? Whats your reasoning to useing this dose, or do you even have one?

BY THE WAY WHAT ARE YOUR STATS?

age/height/weight/body fat %/years training

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-15-2006, 04:18 PM

stats are at top bro... and your correct my 1st two cycles i didnt use PCT correctly which was my downfall... and reason for 300 its cause im getting test 300 cyp so i figured just 1 cc a week ?? what do you suggest ?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 07-15-2006, 04:19 PM

2 cc's a week. 600mgs

**pdog80** · 07-15-2006, 04:21 PM

Ok.....much better, now I can help you. First of all, your test should be higher than the deca . I'd suggest 600mgs test cyp/week and 400mgs deca/week. You should see some nice gains from this. Also, don't forget to PCT properly this time.

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-15-2006, 04:23 PM

Thanks.... for yalls help.... i knew test was suppost to be higher then deca ... but wouldnt 600 mgs a week be a lot considering my 1st 2 cycles were shitty ? Also have you heard of test 400... and would that be a good idea or not ?

**pdog80** · 07-15-2006, 04:27 PM

Test 400 is very painful shot. I'd stick with the test cyp you have right now.
Also, 600mgs test cyp/week shouldn't be too high of an amount considering you already have 2 cycles under your belt even if they didn't give you the results you were expecting.

**Liftnainez** · 07-16-2006, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by pdog80

Ok.....much better, now I can help you. First of all, your test should be higher than the deca. I'd suggest 600mgs test cyp/week and 400mgs deca/week. You should see some nice gains from this. Also, don't forget to PCT properly this time.

FALSE! the test does NOT have to be higher than the deca .. MISCONCEPTION THAT IS QUICKLY SPREADING!!!!!!

**Bigmax** · 07-16-2006, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

FALSE! the test does NOT have to be higher than the deca.. MISCONCEPTION THAT IS QUICKLY SPREADING!!!!!!

RIGHT!!!!!..at one point I thought like this>not cause other people said it...but because I thought the foundation of the cycle should be stronger than the added compound.But its not the case...in fact i believe individuals can get away with lower dose of test(depending on their weight)compared to the other compound.

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-16-2006, 06:16 AM

Well Ive changed my mind and just considered taking 600 mg of Test Cyp every 5 days like you guys have said... Instead of stacking i think ill just increase the dose its been well over a year since my past test cycle. I just dont think im ready for 2 compounds yet( gains were great) I appreciate your advice

**juiceboxxx** · 07-16-2006, 06:33 AM

WOOW You made 3 threads about the same topics!!

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-16-2006, 08:21 AM

just trying to see if diff people would give me same responses

**MAXIMA5** · 07-16-2006, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ

just trying to see if diff people would give me same responses

You could have kept bumping your original thread, but oh well.

anyways, I would shoot the test every 3.5 days at 50% per injection of your desired weekly dose.

You can keep your deca close to your test dose, but since you have never ran deca, you don;t know how your peepee will respond. Buy enough Proviron to run about 50 mg oer day during cycle in case you have problems downstairs. It is also great for PCT as well, so stock up. Let me also recommend Privoron, Aromasin , and Nolva for PCT.

**STEROIDZZ** · 07-16-2006, 04:16 PM

thanks maxima.... i just want to take a anti e while on my cycle >>>??

**pdog80** · 07-16-2006, 07:05 PM

Once again, I said SHOULD not HAVE TO BE. There's a difference between the two.

**anaBROLIC** · 07-16-2006, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by pdog80

Once again, I said SHOULD not HAVE TO BE. There's a difference between the two.

rough day bro?

**pdog80** · 07-16-2006, 07:26 PM

Actually yeah. But I'd rather not get into details. Feel much better now. Thanx for your concern.

**MAXIMA5** · 07-17-2006, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ

thanks maxima.... i just want to take a anti e while on my cycle >>>??

Try 10mg of Nolvadex per day if you are gyno prone and I'd recommend running 50 mg of Proviron regardless. It won't completely deplete estro like letrozole , but it will help you with water and will help with libido, hardness, etc...