It's official..............

[BajanBastard]

some fucking way i'm actually allergic to testosterone propionate . For my 1st cycle i tried sust250 quit after the first shot from the pain. (From the prop and phenylprop esters i guess). My 2nd run in with prop wasn't too pleasant either, shit kicked in fast but i got 2 abscesses (sterile) one in my right tri and right upper pec. The tri one was drained with a needle and the pec one when away by itself. This prop was UGL and naturally i guessed it was the UGL it was not.

Ok now i home brewed some test prop 200mg/ml EO, BB the works. I injected 200mg into my left delt 5 days ago first 2 days were fine, pain was there but nothing to complain about, then BLAM! Pain on top of pain! Now the swelling has gone down the entire length of my bicep and my delt is swollen, hard and warm.

So looks like i can't use prop. I'll have to look into isocaporate or something.

Oh and FUCK PROP!

[soccer#3]

man that sucks.. u got me kinda worried now that im about to run my first real cycle prop-tbol but mine isnt ugl.. farmak - its human grade right?

[Smak]

Amen. I second that.

Fuk Prop!

[tonytone]

i had bad experiences as well..so THIS time i made prop @80mg/ml w 50/50 EO/oil and 2/20 ba bb..have not shot it yet, but hoping it's tolerable

[MrMeathead]

Prop is the sh*t! That sucks you guys have had bad experiences with it!

[HORSE~]

Send the left overs to me ... PLEASE!!!!!!

[BajanBastard]

Three times using prop and three abscess?! I've got some 200mg/ml masteron here, painless! 200mg/ml fina, almost painless. Test prop comes along and i can now feel at least 10mls of puss in my delt. I'm still thinking of trying 50mg ED tho.

[Kale]

Three times using prop and three abscess?! I've got some 200mg/ml masteron here, painless! 200mg/ml fina, almost painless. Test prop comes along and i can now feel at least 10mls of puss in my delt. I'm still thinking of trying 50mg ED tho.

K thats really weird man, there has to be something else going on there.

[*Narkissos*]

AHA!

I told you it was the ester. Don't you remember?

When i helped you drain your tricep.

Can you get test Acetate?

That'd be a plausible solution...

Nark

[*Narkissos*]

btw: sorry that you had to go tru it

[BajanBastard]

I don't think it's the ester itself. Drostanolone + propionate is painless. Testosterone + propionate equals a damn abscess.

I'm glad as hell i didn't brew it all together! But then again the tren will protect me its loyal servant.

Arrgghhhh! pressure.............in..........delt!............ ....hurts............so......much!

Need...............Cindy..........to..........come .............and...............rub..........'it'. Arrgghhh!

[*Narkissos*]

I don't think it's the ester itself. Drostanolone + propionate is painless. Testosterone + propionate equals a damn abscess.

That's just as confusing now as it was then lol.

I'm glad as hell i didn't brew it all together! But then again the tren will protect me its loyal servant.

prop-

Arrgghhhh! pressure.............in..........delt!............ ....hurts............so......much!

Need...............Cindy..........to..........come .............and...............rub..........'it'. Arrgghhh!

Bastard

Die of prop pain why dontcha?

[almostgone]

BB, you could try the .5ml of 200mg/ml prop and see how it does you....My last high dose test prop was a demon until I cut it back to 100mg/ml.....Better yet, thin a small batch out to 100mg/ml and see if that helps you any...

Good luck,
AG

[guest589745]

Well that sucks.

[BajanBastard]

The last set of prop i used was 100mg/ml. Same damn result, abscess. I honestly believe i can't use TP. I'll inject 100mg tomorrow, see what happens.

[MrMeathead]

Send the left overs to me ... PLEASE!!!!!!

Back off! The leftovers come to ME!

[guest589745]

The last set of prop i used was 100mg/ml. Same damn result, abscess. I honestly believe i can't use TP. I'll inject 100mg tomorrow, see what happens.

Fuk that, don't ya think its obvious? Why keep doin it to yerself?

[cmillett]

Are you sure its the test? and not the type of oil its in cottonseed grape seed etc.,etc.

[*Narkissos*]

Are you sure its the test? and not the type of oil its in cottonseed grape seed etc.,etc.

Each time he got an abscess it was from a different oil base.

This time around i believe his carrier is Ethyl Oleate.

Correct me if i'm wrong BB.

[AleX-69]

hey BB that sucks man, i know a bro who has allergic reactions to some carriers in certain concentrations.

He gets abscess like sympthoms when BB is equal to 20%.. Could you post the exact brewinbg ratios of your former test prop brews?

And the ratios of the tren you are using?

AleX

[PlasticFuture112]

Sorry to hear that brotha, cuz your allergic to what i think of as the best substance that could have ever been invented. Hopefully its something other than the prop in the long run but its looking doubtful after all these tries. good luck to your future of AAS without prop and hopefully anymore of those awfully gross absesses. At least consider yourself lucky because i had a friend who had one in the glute and had to have it surgically cut out. not fun stuff.

[goose]

Horrible to hear this,wish you the best......

[BajanBastard]

hey BB that sucks man, i know a bro who has allergic reactions to some carriers in certain concentrations.

He gets abscess like sympthoms when BB is equal to 20%.. Could you post the exact brewinbg ratios of your former test prop brews?

And the ratios of the tren you are using?

AleX

This is the 1st time i've brewed prop. I know it's not the oil, BB, BA, EO etc.

The masteron , prop and fina are all make using the exact same recipe.

2.5% BA, 20% BB, 25% Oil, 35% EO, 17.5% hormone (volume).

The masteron and fina gave me no trouble.

[speak]

I also have bad reactions to prop, hope you find some answers

[AleX-69]

This is the 1st time i've brewed prop. I know it's not the oil, BB, BA, EO etc.

The masteron , prop and fina are all make using the exact same recipe.

2.5% BA, 20% BB, 25% Oil, 35% EO, 17.5% hormone (volume).

The masteron and fina gave me no trouble.

hm.. ok there is one last reason why you have gotten infection like sympthoms with your test prop. did you filter your soulution as it was hot?

If not then you may be the first person i know who doesn't tolerate test prop.. weird..

[BajanBastard]

Filtered hot with a .45 and then a 22.

I'm the 1st person i've ever seen on the forums who is actually allergic to testosterone propionate . Weird indeed.

[AleX-69]

Well the hot filterin process m i g h t be the cause, but i doubt it though it seems the only possible cause left over to me. By hot filtering there is a chance of the soution destroying the filter and therefore particles can not be filtered out of soulution and some parts of the filter membrane may also be in your injection solution (they do look like really small white pieces of paper).

So what i would do is cut the concentration down to 100mg/ml and cold-filter your solution in a sterile vial once more through a 0.22. if you still have problems then.. well .. then its official...

[monstermasss]

wish ya the best big dog!!!!

[BajanBastard]

Hmmm but the fina and masteron were filtered the same way and no probs there. The oil wasn't 'hot' but warmed to make the filtering easier. It's too much of a coincidence for this to happen 3 times. Now i gotta go order some TNE.

[AleX-69]

Hmmm but the fina and masteron were filtered the same way and no probs there. The oil wasn't 'hot' but warmed to make the filtering easier. It's too much of a coincidence for this to happen 3 times. Now i gotta go order some TNE.

if it was only "warm" then yeah.. well send the leftovers my way ok, bro?

That really sucks as test prop is such a beautiful compound.

[Maldorf]

Have you tried brewing up some test base in oil? I did some at 75 mg/ml and it isnt nearly as painful as I thought it might be. Ive been doing daily injection with 50mg of prop and 35mg TNE now for 2 weeks and no real great pain. Ive used some UGL prop before and thought I would die. QV was painful, and golden triangle crippled me! Homebrew has been kind.

[FranKieC]

I'm very allergic to it...I get the same thing you do plus horrible Flu with it.

[BajanBastard]

Do you use any short esters at all FrankieC? Looks like TNE in EO is my best option right now.

[FranKieC]

Do you use any short esters at all FrankieC? Looks like TNE in EO is my best option right now.

Just been sticking with Test E with propper AI's for cutters

[BajanBastard]

Yeah i've got a shitload of TE here, i guess that can work.

[FranKieC]

Yeah i've got a shitload of TE here, i guess that can work.

I remember that thread about long esters vs Short esters for cutting. Jayhova and I had a nice debate about this and he ran Test E in a cutter and it worked out well for him so I gave it a go and liked the results. The Propinate and my body just don't get along.

[Swifto]

Unlukcy. I really liked Test Prop. Try some varius brands/UGL's, they ay work.

[FranKieC]

Bajan shoot me a pm..Marcus was telling me of a prop that was nearly painless

[AleX-69]

hey frankie it all varys from person to person.. Bajans Prop should have been relatively painless, too as he is using 35% EO..
I for myself do brew painless prop myself 10%BB/10%EO. Well it is painless for me and most of my friends but not all..
The same goes for virmone. Test prop at 50mg/ml soley dissolved in EO. It is said that it is the most painless Prop around, but even with Viromone there are users who don't tolerate it that well i suppose.

What one could try though is adding Benzyl Sylicilate to the soulution to mask some of the pain... just a thought.

[FranKieC]

hey frankie it all varys from person to person.. Bajans Prop should have been relatively painless, too as he is using 35% EO..
I for myself do brew painless prop myself 10%BB/10%EO. Well it is painless for me and most of my friends but not all..
The same goes for virmone. Test prop at 50mg/ml soley dissolved in EO. It is said that it is the most painless Prop around, but even with Viromone there are users who don't tolerate it that well i suppose.

What one could try though is adding Benzyl Sylicilate to the soulution to mask some of the pain... just a thought.

Virmone is what friends have taken and recomended I try but like you said it varies.