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    Preferred Test with Var?

    The research I've done points to the fact that Test is Test...but for some reason you see Prop ran with Var more times than other Cyp or E...is there a underlying reason or just preference of Test?

    Looking at this:

    Wk 1-12 Test Prop or E 500mg/wk
    Wk 1-6 Var 60 mg/ED
    Wk 1-12 A-dex .5 mg/ED

    PCT (still exploring different protocols)

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    Here's what ya do

    Wks 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
    Wks 1-4 Test P 50mg/ED or 100mg/EOD
    Wks 8-14 Var 50mg/ED

    A-dex throughout the cycle, PCT as usual after the last day of Var

    If that's a bit much for you, drop the prop, stick with the E. I would try to throw in some EQ or Deca if you really wanna make this a decent cycle. However if you are insistent upon only using the above listed, you'll definitely get more of a benefit from the Var at the end of the cycle.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Here's what ya do

    Wks 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
    Wks 1-4 Test P 50mg/ED or 100mg/EOD
    Wks 8-14 Var 50mg/ED

    A-dex throughout the cycle, PCT as usual after the last day of Var

    If that's a bit much for you, drop the prop, stick with the E. I would try to throw in some EQ or Deca if you really wanna make this a decent cycle. However if you are insistent upon only using the above listed, you'll definitely get more of a benefit from the Var at the end of the cycle.

    Good luck
    Perfect cycle.

    If you wanted to just use two compounds, then I'd stick with prop, and keep the cycle short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak101
    Here's what ya do

    Wks 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
    Wks 1-4 Test P 50mg/ED or 100mg/EOD
    Wks 8-14 Var 50mg/ED

    A-dex throughout the cycle, PCT as usual after the last day of Var

    If that's a bit much for you, drop the prop, stick with the E. I would try to throw in some EQ or Deca if you really wanna make this a decent cycle. However if you are insistent upon only using the above listed, you'll definitely get more of a benefit from the Var at the end of the cycle.

    Good luck
    Thx for the input....looks like a plan

    Where and how much Deca would you add to the cycle? If I decide to add?

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    Bump for Deca info.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stitch1967
    Bump for Deca info.....
    1-10 4-600mgs per week

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranKieC
    1-10 4-600mgs per week
    yuo should run deca at least 100mg lower then test. so 400mg would be cool/.

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    Is it common practice to just combine the Deca and Test E into the same shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stitch1967
    Is it common practice to just combine the Deca and Test E into the same shot?
    There would be no problem if you mixed them

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    Quote Originally Posted by stitch1967
    Is it common practice to just combine the Deca and Test E into the same shot?
    yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Alex*
    yuo should run deca at least 100mg lower then test. so 400mg would be cool/.

    Says who?

    That varies from person to person. He is only stating this for Libido issues but this is not true with everyone.

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    i'm running test and just started my anavar 3 days ago! feeling good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranKieC
    Says who?

    That varies from person to person. He is only stating this for Libido issues but this is not true with everyone.
    well just to make sure you wont have any libido problems , that why you should run test higher then deca . but you are right it not true for eveyone. i have heard people running deca alone and didnt get deca dick.

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    When running Deca or any other compound that "Shuts you down" a minimal dose of Test will suffice to keep the fellas normal.

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    but as i would always say, why take a chance?

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    I finished a Var Only cycle about 6 wks ago and was pretty pleased....I very excited about doing it with Test this time...hate to admit but the board's advice on a Test base is right on. I had lethargy and libido issues from time to time on the Var only cycle....and gains are solid but small

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    Quote Originally Posted by FranKieC
    When running Deca or any other compound that "Shuts you down" a minimal dose of Test will suffice to keep the fellas normal.
    so will 250mg EW do the trick, if you are running 500+mg EW of deca .

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    Quote Originally Posted by stitch1967
    I finished a Var Only cycle about 6 wks ago and was pretty pleased....I very excited about doing it with Test this time...hate to admit but the board's advice on a Test base is right on. I had lethargy and libido issues from time to time on the Var only cycle....and gains are solid but small
    good to hear,i heard that you wont get as vascular running var with test cuz of the test bloat. but i dont care cuz test is KING. i'm up 18+ pounds! and its only week 6 1/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *Alex*
    good to hear,i heard that you wont get as vascular running var with test cuz of the test bloat. but i dont care cuz test is KING. i'm up 18+ pounds! and its only week 6 1/2.

    That's awesome news..I can't wait start this cycle...

    Are you running anything besides the Test and Var? I might just stick with those two compounds.

    If I do throw in some deca ...i'm leaning towards 400mg/wk just to make sure the decadick doesn't show up.

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