clen/t3 and winny...

[tripmachine]

How much BF do you think someone could lose on a strict diet/cardio while on clen /t3 and winny?? just ordered the clen/t3 from lion and have one bottle of 50mg/cc 20cc of winny... most likely getting one more 20 cc bottle... thinking of doing 50mg a day ed.. How much could be lost in 5 weeks do you think? i'm 6'1" tall and probably around 25% bf just guessing... i weigh 200 lbs. Thanks guys for any good estimated guesses or advice.

[tonytone]

leave the winny out for now...and i would recommend leaving the t3 out as well

stick w a STRICT diet/cardio routine and some clen , and you will be dropping BF in no time

[tonytone]

head to the diet forum and read up on an effective cutting diet

do your cardio 5-6 times/wk, right upon waking in the AM on an empty stomach, for 45-60min each time

[tripmachine]

sounds like a plan..... i'm sure you know much more than i do... can you explain why leave the winny/t3 out for now? also .... when would you suggest throwing the t3/winny in?? thanks a lot!

[tonytone]

well, using winny by itself is not a good idea..you should always have a test as a base in your cycles

and i think t3 should only be run alongside aas, because i feel it will be too catabolic, and end up breaking down your muscle

once you drop your bf to 10-15%, you should start using aas, but this is not the only factor..how long have you been training?

[tripmachine]

well off and on for a few years.... so not too long and haven't been serious enough.... i need to get my routine in check first i guess and also the bf issue.... i'm really excited to get the bf down though.... i sure do appreciate your help... and anyone else's input :]

[tripmachine]

btw..... is winny by itself bad because of the libido problems?? or is there more to it than just that ?

[bigg_poppa]

i was told i can run some test first "Just run test cyp or something like that. No need for daily injects. Run an anti e. Try and keep the diet in check. Keep carbs to the min. He should gain muscle and burn more fat due to increased lbm."

thats what i was told

[MrMent1on]

well, using winny by itself is not a good idea..you should always have a test as a base in your cycles

and i think t3 should only be run alongside aas, because i feel it will be too catabolic, and end up breaking down your muscle

once you drop your bf to 10-15%, you should start using aas, but this is not the only factor..how long have you been training?

sound advice.