NE else get in a slump between the end of dbol kickstart and test-e kick-in??

**donveto** · 08-12-2006, 04:37 PM

Now before I get flamed I have searched and I understand it takes different times for different people to get the test to kick in..

I am just wondering if anyone experiences a little "set back" for a week or 2 from the time they stop there dbol kickstart until the test kicks in for size and strength?

I am wrapping up week 5 right now and I feel a little different without the dbol.

#1 my "bloat" is gone- too bad I think because I actually liked it. But I also had a minor gyno scare so I took my l-dex from .25 to .5 ED and I cut back on alot of sodium and increased my cardio SO I cannot blame this totally on dbol.. To experiment I might up my sodium a bit and back off the cardio and go back down to .25 ED as I think the gyno scare is a cyst anyway..I will see what happens this week

#2 this might just go hand in hand with #1 I have upped my calories but have lost about 3 -4 pounds (monday = 206 Sat= 202.5) but I suspect this was water, as my top 4 abs are no far more noticeable instead of blurry

#3 My strength ... Ok my poundage stayed the same but I got tired towards the end and new I needed to stop , where when I was on Dbol I had to make myself stop.

#4 My mood has changed a bit- still horny just not as much BUT more than normal..but My feeling of being an animal 24-7 is fading a bit.

Plus my boss just asked me why I don't look as filled out as I did last week, which kinda annoyed me..

So anyway Week 6 here I come ready to see how long my body takes for the test-e to kick in (yes I know it is legit)

Depending on how long it takes I may adjust my kickstart to 6 weeks of 40mg ED Dbol to try and fill in the gap Unless that is a bad Idea...

Anyone else care to share any experience??

Thanks guys

***Narkissos*** · 08-12-2006, 04:39 PM

i don't get a 'slump'...

you DO know however that dbol can be run longer than 4 weeks right?

**Liftnainez** · 08-12-2006, 04:45 PM

good point nark.. most people think its a general guideline to only run orals for 4 weeks.. this is false.. you could extend the dbol to 6 weeks if you would like

**donveto** · 08-12-2006, 04:46 PM

I was not too sure of It.. I have enough left to take 20Mg ED for 7 days though BUT Im not 100% sure its ok to start again after 6 days off

**donveto** · 08-12-2006, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Liftnainez

good point nark.. most people think its a general guideline to only run orals for 4 weeks.. this is false.. you could extend the dbol to 6 weeks if you would like

I have been making little notes on what to look for in my second cycle and based on my first 6 weeks of Dbol is in order...I love the stuff, then again it is the only AAS I have really "felt" so far..

**guest589745** · 08-12-2006, 04:55 PM

You can run the dbol as long as you wish, just get your liver and kidneys tested periodically.

I think test alone sucks and dbol made me hard and strong as hell, no "bloat" that I can really say I experienced.

**donveto** · 08-12-2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

You can run the dbol as long as you wish, just get your liver and kidneys tested periodically.

I think test alone sucks and dbol made me hard and strong as hell, no "bloat" that I can really say I experienced.

I split my Dbol up 10mg 4x a day and It was like I was hard and pumped around the clock- the bloat was mostly in my ankles and face and a little in my upper body but it was a bloat I liked...

I am researching now what I want to stack in my second cylce.
I would like to try test cyp @ 500mg ED 12-14 weeks, dbol 40-50MG ED 6 weeks..and then who knows I might try EQ only because its cheap BUT I have read alot of mixed reviews on it...as with everything else..

**guest589745** · 08-12-2006, 05:06 PM

I wouldnt recomend 500mg test ED but I think you made a boo boo.

run

cyp
dbol
deca
winny

Thats what Id do. Depends on how "ready" for androgens you are. Be careful.

**keith hackney** · 08-12-2006, 05:35 PM

I definitely understand what you're going through. Some of my most impressive workouts and gym accomplishments came in weeks 4 and 5 of my 10 week enanth cycle (dbol 1-5)

**donveto** · 08-12-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

I wouldnt recomend 500mg test ED but I think you made a boo boo.

run

cyp
dbol
deca
winny

Thats what Id do. Depends on how "ready" for androgens you are. Be careful.

Woops got a little carried away I meant 500mg EW..

**Maldorf** · 08-12-2006, 10:14 PM

When I run an oral like Dbol to kickstart, I will always slowly taper down the dosage over the course of a week or so. Since I started doing this, that period of being down before the injectables kick in is very diminished if not totally absent,

**donveto** · 08-13-2006, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

When I run an oral like Dbol to kickstart, I will always slowly taper down the dosage over the course of a week or so. Since I started doing this, that period of being down before the injectables kick in is very diminished if not totally absent,

This does not seem like a bad idea, next time i might run 50 mg ED 4 weeks
40mg week 5, 30 mg week 6 and see how that works.

**one8nine** · 08-13-2006, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by donveto

I was not too sure of It.. I have enough left to take 20Mg ED for 7 days though BUT Im not 100% sure its ok to start again after 6 days off

as long as you are still on cycle i dont see why not

**donveto** · 08-13-2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by one8nine

as long as you are still on cycle i dont see why not

I did some searching and came up with the same answer- going back on tommorow for 7 days 20mgED

**Maldorf** · 08-13-2006, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by donveto

This does not seem like a bad idea, next time i might run 50 mg ED 4 weeks
40mg week 5, 30 mg week 6 and see how that works.

Ive tapered down faster than that and had good results. Dropping by say 10mg every 4 days or so. Usually by the time I start tapering down I feel like I am almost getting too much dbol , sides really start to increase once the long esters start to kick in.

**donveto** · 08-14-2006, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by Maldorf

Ive tapered down faster than that and had good results. Dropping by say 10mg every 4 days or so. Usually by the time I start tapering down I feel like I am almost getting too much dbol, sides really start to increase once the long esters start to kick in.

Thanks , good to know..

I cannot imagine anyone doing a cycle without the help and experience of this board.. There is soo much to learn and take in. I know so many people that get there hands on something and just take it.. There was one 19 year old at my gym, his nipples were so swollen and he had to wear 4 or 5 layers of clothes because he was lactating...I saw that and said to myself thank god that was not me. Not saying I know everything, but it is a comforting feeling knowing that if something goes wrong I know where to go for help!

**No One Knows** · 08-14-2006, 07:56 AM

I wouldn't say you're in a slump, but you discontinued 1 substance, and test gain come slower..

**manc** · 08-14-2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by donveto

Thanks , good to know..

I cannot imagine anyone doing a cycle without the help and experience of this board.. There is soo much to learn and take in. I know so many people that get there hands on something and just take it.. There was one 19 year old at my gym, his nipples were so swollen and he had to wear 4 or 5 layers of clothes because he was lactating...I saw that and said to myself thank god that was not me. Not saying I know everything, but it is a comforting feeling knowing that if something goes wrong I know where to go for help!

your right mate this is one awesome site ..every thing you need to know is in here somewhere..and if you cant find it just ask.