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    PLZ look @ my Mass Cycle

    Age - 25
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    Sust - 750 mg per week - 12 weeks
    Deca - 400 Mg Per week - 10 weeks
    D-bol - 35 mg per day - kick-start
    Liquidex - .5 mg - ED

    does this look ok?
    it will be my 2nd cycle
    wat should my PCT look like?
    does it matter if i run Test E or Sust?....i have ran Test E before had good gains from it but still looking for more mass another 20lbs would be nice

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    I would run test e instead of sust soo you don't have to inject it soo much to get the effect from the prop. What was your first cycle?

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    300mg test e per week - 10 weeks
    40mg t-bol ED - 6 weeks
    Pct Clomid

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    with test E 750mg per week
    can i do that in 3 shots a week or 2?

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    pretty serious second cycle IMO but to each their own...im also not a fan of sust and would recommend prop but the cycle looks pretty good(for a more experience bro)...lol.. i dont see what the rush is with doses this being your second cycle and all, but atleast your not throwing tren in.. what did your first cycle look like exactly?

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    300 mg - 10 weeks (test e)
    40 mg ED - 6 weeks (t-bol)
    pct - clomid

    i dont want to do too many cycles trying to keep it under 5 thats why my dosages r so much higher this time....im gonna use Test E instead of the sust i think so i dont have to do some many injections

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    Do this for your second.

    Test e- 500 mg weeks 1-12
    Deca - 400 mg weeks 1-10 or 11
    Dbol - 25-35 mg weeks 1-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    300 mg - 10 weeks (test e)
    40 mg ED - 6 weeks (t-bol)
    pct - clomid

    i dont want to do too many cycles trying to keep it under 5 thats why my dosages r so much higher this time
    Sounds to me like your making excuses to run a heavier cycle. Work your way up man. I highly doubt that you will make a set amount of cycles and stop at that. After all there is no turning back from the darkside.

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    i know theres no turning back lol im just telling myself that lol
    im gonna change the sust to test e for sure.....u think i should lower it form 750 to 500? i want as little as possible if any of those sex-sides from the deca .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    i know theres no turning back lol im just telling myself that lol
    im gonna change the sust to test e for sure.....u think i should lower it form 750 to 500? i want as little as possible if any of those sex-sides from the deca.
    As long as you are taking testosterone in at least 100-200 mg a week from the outside you will not be feel the sides from deca . It shuts down your natural production. The test having to be higher than deca or your dick won't work is a myth. 500 mg is enough to make you do a fat chick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    u think i should lower it form 750 to 500? i want as little as possible if any of those sex-sides from the deca.
    with your cycle history absofu*kinglutely you should keep it at 500mg.. no need to bump it up until your body TELLS YOU SO..(you'll know when)


    post your diet in the diet forum and training in the workout forum to possibly get some good feedback...

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    sounds good thanx bros
    500 test e
    400 deca
    35 d-bol

    any idea of wat kinda gains i can get out of this my diet is pretty good gonna be up to around 5000-6000 cals and 350-400 protein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    sounds good thanx bros
    500 test e
    400 deca
    35 d-bol

    any idea of wat kinda gains i can get out of this my diet is pretty good gonna be up to around 5000-6000 cals and 350-400 protein
    There is no telling man. Everyone's body responds to AAS different. One guy might put on 5 pounds and the next might put on 25. Everyone is different. What are your stats?

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    5'10
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    12-15%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    5'10
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    I totally forgot you posted that in your first post. It is 2 a.m. here. lol. I am losing it. I would shoot for at least 225-230 without putting on too much bodyfat.

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    If you dont mind doing shots EOD/MWF of sus I would deff use it over enth. I would also kick the dbol up to 50mg wk1-6.

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    sounds good i would be very happy wit that
    thanx again for the help bro

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    why sust over test e?
    50mg d-bol seems high for a 2nd cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by briansauras
    If you dont mind doing shots EOD/MWF of sus I would deff use it over enth. I would also kick the dbol up to 50mg wk1-6.
    u do realize this is his second cycle? and his first was 300mg of test e... quite a leap IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by briansauras
    If you dont mind doing shots EOD/MWF of sus I would deff use it over enth. I would also kick the dbol up to 50mg wk1-6.
    That would equal out to 750 mg's of test per week which is way more than he needs to make GREAT gains and 50 mg of dbol for 6 weeks is a horrible thing for someone with no previous experience with dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barn Yard
    why sust over test e?
    50mg d-bol seems high for a 2nd cycle
    Sust has shorter acting esters than enanthate soo you will feel the effect quicker but at the same time would be pointless because you would have to shoot it at least every other day and that would be WAY too much test than you would need to blow the fack up! One amp of sust 250 every other day would equal out to 875 mg's per week. That is a "wee" bit to much in my opinion.

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    I used 50mg dbol in the first cycle. He should be fine if he just tapers up to 50mg to see if he can handle it. I dont see how its pushing it. he is already planning on running 750mg test EW along with deca . So why not just inj 250 ever MWF.

    I think thats a perfect 2nd cycle. I used basically the same except i used enth and prop in place of dbol.

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