Moon face

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 12:21 PM

Is there a guarantee you will get "moon face", a noticable bloating in the face when taking testosterone enanthate ?

**V_Vandetta** · 08-19-2006, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

Is there a guarantee you will get "moon face", a noticable bloating in the face when taking testosterone enanthate?

no ... but a good anti E will help keep you dry like adex or letro

**HORSE~** · 08-19-2006, 12:27 PM

I dont.......But if you do it can be controled with l-dex

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by horse2006

I dont.......But if you do it can be controled with l-dex

Letro work as well?

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:07 PM

Moon face is what stuped people call it. It is water bloat and can be controled with anti-e like letro and l-dex

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:08 PM

0.25 mg's ok or should i go with 0.50 (of letro)

**HORSE~** · 08-19-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

Letro work as well?

Yes it will....

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:09 PM

Is sex drive increased or decreased while taking letro with test? or is it a stalemate

**HORSE~** · 08-19-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

0.25 mg's ok or should i go with 0.50 (of letro)

I would start with .25 .....

**HORSE~** · 08-19-2006, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

Is sex drive increased or decreased while taking letro with test? or is it a stalemate

For me it levaled out my sex drive while on test.....When I used it not on cycle it killed my sex drive....

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:17 PM

Fisr off your only running test. So do not run letro. Get l-dex and run that. Letro is to strong and will have some effects on sex drive. The chance of l-dex doing this is much less.

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

Fisr off your only running test. So do not run letro. Get l-dex and run that. Letro is to strong and will have some effects on sex drive. The chance of l-dex doing this is much less.

I am somewhat prone to gyno so I was thinking letro would be more suitable

**STEROIDZZ** · 08-19-2006, 01:33 PM

both work well... letro is just a better compound then arimidex IMO ... im going to run letro before cycle to try and reverse some previous gyno and taper down my dsg to .25 and start my cycle... arimidex and letro are great i just like letro

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

I am somewhat prone to gyno so I was thinking letro would be more suitable

How do you know your pron to gyno? Also what dose test are you running?

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ

both work well... letro is just a better compound then arimidex IMO ... im going to run letro before cycle to try and reverse some previous gyno and taper down my dsg to .25 and start my cycle... arimidex and letro are great i just like letro

do what you wont say what you may. The facts are that letro is to strong for a test only cycle. You will hinder gaines as well.

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by STEROIDZZ

both work well... letro is just a better compound then arimidex IMO ... im going to run letro before cycle to try and reverse some previous gyno and taper down my dsg to .25 and start my cycle... arimidex and letro are great i just like letro

i am in the eact same situation

im open to all opinions.. i wouldnt think sex drive would be decreased while on 500mgs of test and only 0.25 mg of letro

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:38 PM

I was actually going to run winstrol from weeks 7-12

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:40 PM

You are i bet you did not know winny also works like an anti-e to some degree.

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:41 PM

Also if you run nolv for pct this will once agen reduce an gyno.

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 01:44 PM

you think nolva will reduce gyno? i thought it was only used for prevention. nolva will definitely be apart of my pct, with clomid probably

so 0.25 mg's of arimidex from 1-12 will be most beneficial?

***G-1000*** · 08-19-2006, 01:51 PM

Nolv will help reduce it at the sight. You can even go as high as .5 with the l-dex all depends on what the dose of test is. But you have to keep in mind estagen helps you gain muscle. So if you cut to much out or prevent it from converting you will hinder gains.

**cfiler** · 08-19-2006, 02:05 PM

A good AI will keep bloat off. Everyone reacts differently to test though, some don't notice any bloat, yet others blow up like a water balloon.

**STEROIDZZ** · 08-19-2006, 02:07 PM

he's correct about if your estrogen gets too low it will hinder gains... that why a lot of people dont like letro.. and thinking about it letro could be too strong but .25 a no way it would hinder his gains... nor would your estrogen levels drop down that low for that to happen.. now higher dosages of letro will in fact do as gsxxr states

**big daddy k de** · 08-19-2006, 06:05 PM

oh dont worry you wont get "moon face" ..you will get Uranus face..its whenn your face looks like a butt hole j/k lol ..l-dex, arma, tamax ..all good ways to go ..how many mg are your running ?

**Elexecution** · 08-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by big daddy k de

oh dont worry you wont get "moon face" ..you will get Uranus face..its whenn your face looks like a butt hole j/k lol ..l-dex, arma, tamax ..all good ways to go ..how many mg are your running ?

500mg's of test 1-10
winstrol 50mg 7-12

probably going with the letro throughout the cycle at .25mg

then pct of course, probably nolva and clomid

**big daddy k de** · 08-19-2006, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

500mg's of test 1-10
winstrol 50mg 7-12

probably going with the letro throughout the cycle at .25mg

then pct of course, probably nolva and clomid

oh thats not to much ... you should be gold .. watch outwith letro ... kills my sex drive

***G-1000*** · 08-20-2006, 06:42 AM

I would liek to put money on this. after 8-10 weeks you are going to have a hard time keeping your dick hard.

**BigSwol** · 08-20-2006, 07:34 AM

What the opinion on runnin aromasin ? Besides its pricey. I was running letro during my teste/deca cycle. Started at .25 for a month and then had to up it severly. Once I upped it all the way to 2.5 I started to feel like shit, so I dropped it and switched to aromasin. It made me fell 100X better. Kept the majority of water off, but didn't hinder my gains as letro was.

BigSwol

**Elexecution** · 08-20-2006, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by BigSwol

What the opinion on runnin aromasin ? Besides its pricey. I was running letro during my teste/deca cycle. Started at .25 for a month and then had to up it severly. Once I upped it all the way to 2.5 I started to feel like shit, so I dropped it and switched to aromasin. It made me fell 100X better. Kept the majority of water off, but didn't hinder my gains as letro was.

BigSwol

Why'd you need to up it from .25?

**legobricks** · 08-20-2006, 08:18 PM

because it looks like .25 wasnt cutting it for him. im going to be running .25 mgs of adex and hopefully it will be enough to keep gyno off. I had a small flare up of gyno (an actuall lump) and got rid of it with letro. didnt kill my sex drive like everyone said, i still had a little bit left in me! but the gyno i honestly HAVE NO CLUE WHERE IT CAME FROM. but its gone now. i also would have some tamox on hand just in case.

**Biggyb** · 08-20-2006, 08:25 PM

elex i am prone to gyno as well and regret the decision to try the ldex i kept upping the dose and the lumps kept growing been on binos gyno reversal with letro and really wish i would have gone with letro from the start. it hasnt killed my sex drive but it has leveled out.

**Elexecution** · 08-20-2006, 08:26 PM

.25 should be strong enough to keep the gyno away, letro is a really strong substance

**Elexecution** · 08-20-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Biggyb

elex i am prone to gyno as well and regret the decision to try the ldex i kept upping the dose and the lumps kept growing been on binos gyno reversal with letro and really wish i would have gone with letro from the start. it hasnt killed my sex drive but it has leveled out.

yeah. i'm doing letro 15 days before my first injection of test to help keep gyno away and stabilize blood levels

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 08-21-2006, 06:34 AM

i think what gsxxr is saying is that the test/ letro combination isnt the best way to go for good results/steady sex drive DURING the cycle. The L-dex is a better choice ON cycle & then after maybe run Letro if necessary... do you have gyno now?? if not...how do you know you are prone to it?

***G-1000*** · 08-21-2006, 06:55 AM

Better yet you said your pron to gyno. OK you just might be. How do you know and what kind are you prone to?

**Elexecution** · 08-21-2006, 10:26 AM

I am prone because I had pubertal gyno as a teenager and also have a puffiness in my right nipple right now that I'm using letro 15 days before my cycle and during entire cycle to control. There is no lump, though

***G-1000*** · 08-21-2006, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Elexecution

I am prone because I had pubertal gyno as a teenager and also have a puffiness in my right nipple right now that I'm using letro 15 days before my cycle and during entire cycle to control. There is no lump, though

OK then what kind of gyno is it?

**cutting_king** · 08-21-2006, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by getnjakked

the test/ letro combination isnt the best way to go for good results

i think this all depends on the individuals sensitivity to sides,in this case bloat. for me i could use l-dex but I'll still gain loads of water on pretty much any compound (believe me I've tried) however if i use letro it keeps me drier and even though gains may not be as good it suits my individual situation perfectly as i need to carry as little water as possible and my goals aren't necessarily to get as big as possible. so its a very individual thing to be based around a users goals/experience and how prone they are to sides in the 1st place. King