Synergistic stacking…..who believes in doing it?

[BajanBastard]

Just wondering what are your thoughts on stacking 3 or more compounds in a cycle to maximize muscle mass gains and fat loss? I personally like the idea of stacking steroids that have different effects at the same time during a cycle for example;

Trenbolone 600mg weekly
Drostanolone 400mg weekly
Stanozolol 350mg weekly
Testosterone 200mg weekly

Thanks for the input.

[kloter1]

ross is that you?

[BajanBastard]

Funny

[2.minutes]

ross is that you?

wut has ross to do wid dis?

[2.minutes]

Just wondering what are your thoughts on stacking 3 or more compounds in a cycle to maximize muscle mass gains and fat loss? I personally like the idea of stacking steroids that have different effects at the same time during a cycle for example;

Trenbolone 600mg weekly
Drostanolone 400mg weekly
Stanozolol 350mg weekly
Testosterone 200mg weekly

Thanks for the input.

well i would love to have different gear in ma cycle but unfortunatly am prone to MPB so am just stuck to test+eq+tbol, otherwise i would have a cycle of test+tren (never tried it)+winni+d-bol +eq all in one cycle

[Swifto]

I'm going to definitely use the different famillies of AS to reach my goals, yes.

[oswaldosalcedo]

Just wondering what are your thoughts on stacking 3 or more compounds in a cycle to maximize muscle mass gains and fat loss? I personally like the idea of stacking steroids that have different effects at the same time during a cycle for example;

Trenbolone 600mg weekly
Drostanolone 400mg weekly
Stanozolol 350mg weekly
Testosterone 200mg weekly

Thanks for the input.

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[one8nine]

Just wondering what are your thoughts on stacking 3 or more compounds in a cycle to maximize muscle mass gains and fat loss? I personally like the idea of stacking steroids that have different effects at the same time during a cycle for example;

Trenbolone 600mg weekly
Drostanolone 400mg weekly
Stanozolol 350mg weekly
Testosterone 200mg weekly

Thanks for the input.

i really like the test, 19-nor, dht thing and maybe with a non ar mechanism with it

i wouldnt personally run winny with masteron , masteron is killin my joints on its own much less MORE dht
what made you choose low doses just wondering.. arent you taking tren at 200ed right now?? what else are you taking currently?

[BajanBastard]

Hey Oswald good to see out. Gimme some of your examples guys, what would you run?

[Swifto]

My next cycle is as follows: Its also a little experiment.

wk 1-12 Primo 600-1000mg/wk
wk 1-8 Test Prop 75mg/ED
wk 6-12 Tbol 80mg/ED OR Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

[BajanBastard]

i really like the test, 19-nor, dht thing and maybe with a non ar mechanism with it

i wouldnt personally run winny with masteron , masteron is killin my joints on its own much less MORE dht
what made you choose low doses just wondering.. arent you taking tren at 200ed right now?? what else are you taking currently?

Hey! That's my idea! j/k

I'm just on masteron and low dose test right now, ****ing tren got broken.

That cycle was just an example but since i need to order more tren I'll just get some winny as well and run that cycle but will higher doses on the tren, winny and masteron or replace the masteron will 1-test.

[BajanBastard]

My next cycle is as follows: Its also a little experiment.

wk 1-12 Primo 600-1000mg/wk
wk 1-8 Test Prop 75mg/ED
wk 6-12 Tbol 80mg/ED OR Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

Yeah, looks nice but why primo as the base? 'Light' cycle?

[one8nine]

Hey Oswald good to see out. Gimme some of your examples guys, what would you run?

part a) test - or i have been thinking of boldenone + provirion as an experiment to replace test

part b) 19-nor - mostly npp, maybe ill use tren again one day but the endurance thing is not for me

part c) dht derivitive - i want to try primo and im enjoying masteron , wouldnt really wanna try winny though

part d) orals - my main intrests are drol, halo, and var... even though i use short esters i plan to always use an oral at the end and then continue for 10+ days after last short ester injection, and THEN go to pct


and currently im on
test 100mg ed
npp 100mg ed
masteron 100mg ed
drol 50mg ed

[one8nine]

Yeah, looks nice but why primo as the base? 'Light' cycle?

i could be wrong but maybe hes trying the idea of cutting shut down drugs (test in this case) and running only slightly supressive drugs (primo and tbol in this case) to maybe go from 0% test production to 10 or 20% and get a headstart on pct?? this has crossed my mind

[one8nine]

My next cycle is as follows: Its also a little experiment.

wk 1-12 Primo 600-1000mg/wk
wk 1-8 Test Prop 75mg/ED
wk 6-12 Tbol 80mg/ED OR Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-PCT Proviron 50mg/ED

why not run the oral 8-14 instead so you can use it right to pct

in stead of stopping the last day of meth e injection and have 2 weeks of nothing to pct?

[BajanBastard]

How is that 50mg drol working for you? I've got a few grams but i'm unsure as if to use it or not.

As soon as i save up the $$$$ i'll continue my cycle looking at stacking

Tren (base of cycle)
1-test or boldenone
masteron
winny
test (TRT)

Talking about winny you thing a 100mg/ml suspension can be done?

[Swifto]

Yeah, looks nice but why primo as the base? 'Light' cycle?

ACNE!



I may even lower the dose of Test Prop 50mg/ED. Tbol instead of Dbol due to it not aromotasing or VERY slightly...I'm also going to add Aromasin , I think to keep estrogen down. I dont think Proviron is that effective IMO.

But any way...

[Swifto]

why not run the oral 8-14 instead so you can use it right to pct

in stead of stopping the last day of meth e injection and have 2 weeks of nothing to pct?

Sorry...Didnt spot that. Thanks.

Tut Tut. I'm usually quicker than that.

[one8nine]

How is that 50mg drol working for you? I've got a few grams but i'm unsure as if to use it or not.

As soon as i save up the $$$$ i'll continue my cycle looking at stacking

Tren (base of cycle)
1-test or boldenone
masteron
winny
test (TRT)

Talking about winny you thing a 100mg/ml suspension can be done?

i have no experience with suspensions but with eo all things are possible

i am experiencing none of the sides everyone says you get with drol, i capped it with 10mg of nolva each too as an experiment, no bloating or stomach problems or anything, it really put a kick into my cycle
GO FOR THE DROL!! i love it. and it has helped my hunger

but the masteron and winny killing your joints and the tren killin your endurance everyone will think you have aids for a couple months
walk around in slow motion dragin your heels like an old man

edit: also taking caber im sure is helping
i would also liek to throw in that even though im on 350mg of AAS ED im having no andger problems i have actually been in a lot better mood
and my little partner has never been harder

[BajanBastard]

i have no experience with suspensions but with eo all things are possible

i am experiencing none of the sides everyone says you get with drol, i capped it with 10mg of nolva each too as an experiment, no bloating or stomach problems or anything, it really put a kick into my cycle
GO FOR THE DROL!! i love it. and it has helped my hunger

but the masteron and winny killing your joints and the tren killin your endurance everyone will think you have aids for a couple months
walk around in slow motion dragin your heels like an old man

edit: also taking caber im sure is helping
i would also liek to throw in that even though im on 350mg of AAS ED im having no andger problems i have actually been in a lot better mood
and my little partner has never been harder

LOL! Tren is a bitch with your endurance by days 3-4 i was owned.

I'll be getting some caber for sure and so far the masteron has not negatively affected my joints so adding the winny may not pose a problem, 12 weeks on winny didn't kill Nark and he's a puss so I'll be fine.

[Swifto]

LOL! Tren is a bitch with your endurance by days 3-4 i was owned.

I'll be getting some caber for sure and so far the masteron has not negatively affected my joints so adding the winny may not pose a problem, 12 weeks on winny didn't kill Nark and he's a puss so I'll be fine.

Ooohhhh.....

[oswaldosalcedo]

Hey Oswald good to see out. Gimme some of your examples guys, what would you run?

Ditto Bajan.

winstrol tabs.
tren tabs.
dianabol tabs.


ohhhh my liver, and iam acne prone, maybe have to use accutane! worst yet. ....lol...
but just 5 weeks.

[BajanBastard]

LOL! Are you serious? lol.

Aren't tren tabs useless?

[Swifto]

Ditto Bajan.

winstrol tabs.
tren tabs.
dianabol tabs.


ohhhh my liver, and iam acne prone, maybe have to use accutane! worst yet. ....lol...
but just 5 weeks.

Dosages?

[oswaldosalcedo]

LOL! Are you serious? lol.

Aren't tren tabs useless?

serious serious.

[cantspeak]

synergy, would this count

tren ace
test prop
winnie
t-bol

[BajanBastard]

Yeah that looks nice, i would replace the t-bol tho.

[cantspeak]

what would you replace the t-bol with ?

[BajanBastard]

Hmmmm, masteron if i was cutting or EQ if bulking. Nark ran 100mg ED of T-bol and it did next to nothing for him, i thing t-bol is a 'light' AAS and is most effective if you're at a lighter bodyweight. I’ve got some here and I have not idea what to do with it, may still use it though.

[guest589745]

Just wondering what are your thoughts on stacking 3 or more compounds in a cycle to maximize muscle mass gains and fat loss? I personally like the idea of stacking steroids that have different effects at the same time during a cycle for example;

Trenbolone 600mg weekly
Drostanolone 400mg weekly
Stanozolol 350mg weekly
Testosterone 200mg weekly

Thanks for the input.

I learned this concept from you and it makes perfect sense IMO. I think you know what yer doin baj. If you know how you react to these compounds and have had positive experiences then I see no reason to not use them.

My .02

[guest589745]

Gimme some of your examples guys, what would you run?

1-8(10) tren a 50+mg ED
1-10 400-600mg mast a week
1-14 500mg test a week
11-16 50+mg winstrol ED (inject)

As much HGH as possible constantly.

[guest589745]

How is that 50mg drol working for you? I've got a few grams but i'm unsure as if to use it or not.

As soon as i save up the $$$$ i'll continue my cycle looking at stacking

Tren (base of cycle)
1-test or boldenone
masteron
winny
test (TRT)

Talking about winny you thing a 100mg/ml suspension can be done?

Thats how Im doin it now. THe more "useful" compound I will consider the "base". Not test.

[cantspeak]

well a few years ago on another very popular board this issue was brought up in a thread. I remember someone saying, and i forgot the reasoning behind each product exactly i cant search on the site cause if you wanna search you goota have paid membership. anyway it was like this:

weeks 1-12 test prop 100mg ed
weeks 1-4 d-bol 30mg ed
weeks 1-11 tren ace 75mg ed
weeks 5-12 winnie depot 50mg ed
whole cycle - GH and longer is preffered of course 6-8iu
whole cycle - insulin , humalog - PWO 10iu

just something to think about . the gh is out of the question for me at that dose is too pricey.

[*Narkissos*]

Hmmmm, masteron if i was cutting or EQ if bulking. Nark ran 100mg ED of T-bol and it did next to nothing for him, i thing t-bol is a 'light' AAS and is most effective if you're at a lighter bodyweight. I’ve got some here and I have not idea what to do with it, may still use it though.

Tbol is garbage.

As to your original question, that for which the thread was started, i believe in synergistic stacking: That which takes into account not only the 'different families' of AAS.. but also the individual's body composition/body type (somatotype); natural hormone levels; predispositions (for sides; gynaeco; MPB etc.)

For me, tho i will may again list my cycles online i will state however that, i run dht-based cycles: 1-2 dht-based compounds (because i respond better to DHT) + TRT + a majorly anabolic compound

...maybe a non-androgen-based anabolic as well

e.g.

Weeks 1-16 masteron (prop ester) 100 mg ED
Weeks 1-8; 9-16 Winstrol 100 mg ED
Weeks 1-10 test-prop 50 mg ED
Weeks 1-10 tren -ace 100 mg ED
Weeks 1-22** Insulin pwo 10 IUs

** Insulin use extends to PCT (insulin being the non-androgen-derived anabolic as mentioned above)

Narkissos

[guest589745]

Tbol is garbage.

As to your original question, that for which the thread was started, i believe in synergistic stacking: That which takes into account not only the 'different families' of AAS.. but also the individual's body composition/body type (somatotype); natural hormone levels; predispositions (for sides; gynaeco; MPB etc.)

For me, tho i will may again list my cycles online i will state however that, i run dht-based cycles: 1-2 dht-based compounds (because i respond better to DHT) + TRT + a majorly anabolic compound

...maybe a non-androgen-based anabolic as well

e.g.

Weeks 1-16 masteron (prop ester)
Weeks 1-8; 9-16 Winstrol
Weeks 1-10 test-prop
Weeks 1-10 tren -ace
Weeks 1-16 Insulin pwo

Narkissos

So you only run a replacement dosage correct? I was thinking about this too just because test is basically only a precautionary measure for me and I experience slim to nil anabolic effects of it. What, 80-100mg a week?

Sorry to "hi-jack" baj.

[*Narkissos*]

So you only run a replacement dosage correct? I was thinking about this too just because test is basically only a precautionary measure for me and I experience slim to nil anabolic effects of it. What, 80-100mg a week?


Sorry to "hi-jack" baj.

I'm yet to experiment with the true 'replacement dose'.. I can say however that i, like you, gain nothing from test. When i drop it i feel better. Heck during my last cycle i cut it completely at points cus the prop was immobilising namely.. That and the flu-like symptoms were like a 1-2-punch to the gut

[oswaldosalcedo]

Dosages?

W:40 mg
D:40 mg
T:100 mg (maybe can go higher.

ED for 5-6 weeks.

[vitor]

I really belive in covering the AR+non AR meditaded mechanism to provide synergi. I have never seen much evidence that a 19-nor will stimulate the AR-recepter diffrently than DHT-compond, since there only seems to be 1 DNA cell that codes for the AR. Also, d-bol and anadrol binds very weakly, if at all, at the Androgen-recepter, which defently means that all muscle grow doesnt come from activating the AR alone to promote protein syntheize, nitrogen retinsion etc.

My next cycle will probaly consist of something like this:

Masteron :1-6(good AR binding, possible no affect at the non-ar mechaism)
Halotestin :1-4(weak AR-binding, hits a diffrent mechanism)
winstrol :4-6(same with winny)
Proviron :1-6+PCT

Ime not really looking for much more size at the moment, yust more quality, vascularity and strenght.

[doittoit]

OSWALDOSALCEDO how does the tren oral work? is it an acetate?...by the way i'm also using win/dbol in 75/125 respectively mon-fri(training days) with EQ.

[Swifto]

I really belive in covering the AR+non AR meditaded mechanism to provide synergi. I have never seen much evidence that a 19-nor will stimulate the AR-recepter diffrently than DHT-compond, since there only seems to be 1 DNA cell that codes for the AR. Also, d-bol and anadrol binds very weakly, if at all, at the Androgen-recepter, which defently means that all muscle grow doesnt come from activating the AR alone to promote protein syntheize, nitrogen retinsion etc.

My next cycle will probaly consist of something like this:

Masteron :1-6(good AR binding, possible no affect at the non-ar mechaism)
Halotestin :1-4(weak AR-binding, hits a diffrent mechanism)
winstrol :4-6(same with winny)
Proviron :1-6+PCT

Ime not really looking for much more size at the m

oment, yust more quality, vascularity and strenght.

I was looking yesterday for it...Vitor, can you please post a list of the different AS that act on the mediated and non-ar mediated mechanism please.