Should I still take Letro?

**ghostRidedawhip707** · 09-05-2006, 06:14 PM

Ok, I'm on my 7th week of fina of 100mg eod and 2nd of winny at 50mg ed. Before you guys say anything my sex drive is fine and strength is up alot. With very minimal sides. Knock on wood. Ok, I was getting very puffy nips with a cone shape to it and felt a very small bump under it. I started taking B-6 about a week ago and started Ephedra as well. Uped the cardio as well. The puffiness went down quite a bit and can't really tell. I am also at 280 with about 18%bf. What do you think? Should take the letro anyways? I just got it today.

**fLgAtOr** · 09-05-2006, 06:15 PM

Depends how much time you have left, as I don't particularly like to run letro into PCT.

**ghostRidedawhip707** · 09-05-2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Depends how much time you have left, as I don't particularly like to run letro into PCT.

Well, I have about 4 more weeks left with the Tren and 4 more with Winny. I just want to stay on the safe side. I will not run it into PCT.

**doublefister** · 09-06-2006, 12:27 AM

You can still run it into PCT just dont take it the same time you take your Nolva. Take your Letro in the day and your Nolva at night. Running it together will reduce the blood plasma levels of the Letro which actually aint all that bad since its so strong.

I believe Bino has been taking his Letro and Nolva on separate times and its been working good for him so far.

**daem** · 09-06-2006, 10:41 AM

What is the dosage you are planning on running the letro?

I think with how low your dosages are right now that you'd only need 1mg IF that.

I'd be more concerned about the conical nipple at this point, so see if you can get ahold of some bromocriptine. B6 is nice, but the bromo is the only thing I have ever seen protect from the negative sides associated with high progesterone levels.

The letro isn't going to defeat progesterone induced gyno, and won't even be stable in your system if you haven't taken it up to this point.

Up your B6 to 200mg/ED in the meantime and look into the bromo!

***BajanBastard*** · 09-06-2006, 11:15 AM

Bromo causes side effects in most users, cabergoline is a much better option. The letro will help lower estrogen levels and concentrations of progesterone receptor levels, which in turn will lower the effects of the tren binding to the progesterone receptor.

**daem** · 09-06-2006, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

Bromo causes side effects in most users, cabergoline is a much better option. The letro will help lower estrogen levels and concentrations of progesterone receptor levels, which in turn will lower the effects of the tren binding to the progesterone receptor.

I agree that Dostinex (cabergoline) is another viable option here. I've had terrible sides with Bromo, however it has never failed me in cases like this.

His problem lies in the fact that the progesterone receptor has already experienced some activity.

I feel it is counter-intuitive to take the letro from here on out just because it isn't going to directly attack the problem since he has experienced some signs of gyne. Taking the letro is a passive solution that may or may not stop the problem, wheras bromo or dostinex is an active solution that should work like a charm.

I'm still shocked someone would run a cycle like this with all the great advice that is shared on this board.

Just my opinion.

***BajanBastard*** · 09-06-2006, 12:48 PM

Yeah. I agree with you Daem. Cabergoline is his best option right now but letro can still be of use. I can't knock the tren /winny cycle myself but i would have run a little test with it and had cabergoline from the get go.

**Swifto** · 09-06-2006, 12:52 PM

Vit-b6 100-200mg/ED has also helped users reduce the effects of gyno, when using a 19-Nor.

**ghostRidedawhip707** · 09-06-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by daem

I agree that Dostinex (cabergoline) is another viable option here. I've had terrible sides with Bromo, however it has never failed me in cases like this.

His problem lies in the fact that the progesterone receptor has already experienced some activity.

I feel it is counter-intuitive to take the letro from here on out just because it isn't going to directly attack the problem since he has experienced some signs of gyne. Taking the letro is a passive solution that may or may not stop the problem, wheras bromo or dostinex is an active solution that should work like a charm.

I'm still shocked someone would run a cycle like this with all the great advice that is shared on this board.

Just my opinion.

Well, I was taking Test Prop at the beggining, but had lost it on a trip and can't get ahold of anything right now. I do have experience with the tren only and liked it. So I just continued to take the cycle without the Test. Thanks for your concern though. I know your only trying to help.

Now with the gyno. Since last mon I started taking B-6 and Ephedra the swelling went down quit a bit. I was going to get Cabergoline, but guys suggested Letro. I don't think it has to do with the Fina, but maybe the stop of test. And my funds are'nt up there to get it now. Like someone said my dosages are not that high so hopefully it will subside.

Could it be to that I stopped the Test and it had some kind of rebound effect?

This is how I'm going to take the Letro:
.5mg eod up to PCT

I will get Aromisin or keep my ldex and run that with my PCT. I was also going to get some HCG next week and run it 500iu 2x week up to PCT. Thanks for your help guys. I will keep you posted.