What can I expect?

[Chazzbroid]

Im looking to do a stack of Deca and winni. This is my first time doing roids. What can I expect?

Thanks,
Chazz

[1buffsob]

Welcome to AR. I suggest you do some researching before you begin. Deca and winni is a terrible combo in the hands of a beginner. Take a look at this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=120894

If you have any questions once you're finished reading, feel free to post them. And as always, we need your stats/goals/experience/age/etc. before we can begin to help you. Good luck.

BTW, the first thing that came to my mind when I read this thread, was gyno and a limp dick.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

lol, buffsob beat me to it! yeah, winny and deca dont go well together!

[Surrender]

You can expect someone to call it a shitty cycle. read, read and read some more

[Beefyman]

yep like surrender said... some members are very very helpful...

but i think they would say do a Test based cycle for your first and also

Deca MAY make you "unable to cum" (as stated in another post) or get a hard on "Deca dick"

and winni gives you weak joints or so i hear alot... from members that have used it (all with over 5000 posts told me this)

[Beefyman]

Welcome Chazz

[Chazzbroid]

well there are two of us:
Me:
6'3 230
age: 20

Him:
6'5 220
age: 18

Active lifters since we were both 15. This past summer was our most intense, we lifted 6 days a week with a personal trainer who was a former pro bodybuilder. During that time we took some pro hormones.

Is that enough? what else do you need?

What would be a good stack? we really want deca because we have read that there awesome gains the first time you do it.

Our goals are simply BIGGER, faster, stronger.

Thanks

[SMAN12b]

Both are really too young to be starting AAS please read some more before screwing up your natural HPTA
WELCOME TO AR

[Chazzbroid]

Sorry Im new, what is AAS? We still would like to take something. What are some good choices?

[SMAN12b]

Sorry Im new, what is AAS? We still would like to take something. What are some good choices?

WELCOME TO AR

AAS= Anabolic ,Andogenic Steroids

At your ages, you are producing way plenty enough of natural hormones to make you gain big time if you eat and train correctly. If you start messing with your natural hormone levels too soon, you risk causing permanant damage at a young age and not knowing enough about AAs is the first mistake . PCT is the most important part of any AAS cycle and if you dont' understand that, you should read up on that

Check out the diet forum and the training forum

You have to eat correctly to grow

[Chazzbroid]

We both feel that we are done growing. I've been 6'3 since I was a sophmore and hes been 6'5 since then too. Over the summer we had some good gains with our personal trainer but now we feel we can better ourselves by using.

[SMAN12b]

We both feel that we are done growing. I've been 6'3 since I was a sophmore and hes been 6'5 since then too. Over the summer we had some good gains with our personal trainer but now we feel we can better ourselves by using.

I am trying to be nice and not flame you here, BUT I really dont' care how you FEEL....the FACTS are you guys are too young.
If you really feel you reached your peak, then you need to change up the routine and work on the proper food intake first.
You will need those qualities anyway before using AAS, so learn now and wait on AAS

PLEASE !! We are not here to stop people from doing what we love, but we do want them to do it as safely as possible for their future and not just for now

Good luck with whatever you do

[Chazzbroid]

Well in any case were going to use them. No doubt about it. What do you guys think would be a good first cycle?

Thanks

[hardgainer12]

Well in any case were going to use them. No doubt about it. What do you guys think would be a good first cycle?

Thanks

u cant even take the mans advice? damn y even ask a question? u know nothing about AAS so do ur research. anyways whats ur BF%

[SMAN12b]

Well in any case were going to use them. No doubt about it. What do you guys think would be a good first cycle?

Thanks

Sorry Chazz, people here take AAS very seriously, I doubt with the lack of maturity you are showing here, that any respecting member will give you advice that you are NOT ready to listen to.

Good Luck

[1buffsob]

Well in any case were going to use them. No doubt about it. What do you guys think would be a good first cycle?

Thanks

I really hate to see such ignorance. I hope you do your research. Our advice is only for your well being. We wish you all the best.

[Chazzbroid]

You guys really think 18 and 20 is too young? when is the right time?

[SMAN12b]

You guys really think 18 and 20 is too young? when is the right time?

there are threads about this here and YES you are too young. Personally , 25 would be a great starting age, but at least 22 if you cant wait

[auslifta]

you really need to read alot here,you will benefit greatly from these guys, they have been there and done it.you came for advice and you got it . i think you need more patience perfection cant be rushed.
good luck and happy lifting

[Growingpains]

Where you guys from? Why so eager to hop into AAS?

[Chazzbroid]

Were from the midwest. We really just want to get alot bigger and stronger and being shredded wouldnt hurt either.

[Chazzbroid]

Do you guys have any suggestions? besides steroids i mean.

[1buffsob]

Proper dieting and training with adequate rest. That's really all there is to it.

[SMAN12b]

Proper dieting and training with adequate rest. That's really all there is to it.

Agreed tenfold~~ you will be amazed at how much you will grow naturally once you get your food intake correct!! That is your magic pill right there.
And nothing will help as much until you get that correct~~

[Chazzbroid]

Well whats that include? Im in college so I have cafeteria food. My lifting is pretty good already.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Im looking to do a stack of Deca and winni. This is my first time doing roids. What can I expect?

Thanks,
Chazz

Can expect good gains if your training/diet are in order.
And a slim possibility of deca dick....which recovers.

[SMAN12b]

there is a diet forum here that will help you out.
If you are limited on food, then AAS is definetly NOT gonna do you any good right now. You will have to make sacrafices and figure out how to get the food you need if you truly want to grow

[Chazzbroid]

Well I know I could use the cafeteria for breakfast, lunch and dinner. If I need more I can get it. I just need to know what to get. Also what sups? I have two prohormones bottles.

[ll0o0ll]

eat six or seven times a day at least three times your body weight in carbs (oats, brown rice yams are all good choices) and at least 2 times your weight in protein (chicken, tuna, red meat, and pork are good) also some good fats peanut butter is good. do this and you will gain weight faster then you would ever thought possible. the pro hormones are a no no at your age too. after learning to eat this way maybe then look into aas in a few years.

[ll0o0ll]

also try and hit at least 4000 calories a day. it should be fairly easy if you take my advice above.

[chuckt12345]

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