Just a cycle idea I wanted to share with you guys

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-10-2006, 12:19 PM

I am already thinking of what I wanna run next and I am almost through my current cycle haha. Basically I wanna know what you guys htink of this cycle for putting on lean mass while losing fat. Plan is to run it as a clean bulk with AM cardio to try and burn some fat off. Now as far as the use of long esters....I just prefer twice a week injections and not daily so I would rather run everything longer.

Test E - 250mg week 1 - 14
Tren E - 500mg week 1 - 12
EQ - 400mg week 1 - 12
Winstrol - 50mg day week 10-14

Current stats are 5'10 195 10% bf - ran super drol once and currently wrapping up my test e and deca cycle. PCT will be Anthony Roberts PCT (as long as I feel like it after I try it in a few weeks). I will be using either .25mg of letro a day or 20mg a day of aromasin to control water and estrogen sides. Might also run fina or durastride to combat any potential hair loss from tren. Cycle is quite a ways away but I was thinking it up recently and I have no friends that I can talk to about it that would have any idea what I am talking about so I figured I would post up and see what the bros here thought.

**lucabratzi** · 09-10-2006, 12:26 PM

how come ur runnin such a low dose of test..

**STEROIDZZ** · 09-10-2006, 12:30 PM

I honestly would run the test at 500mg but things dont look too bad.. im not too familiar with tren ... and ihope you have many cycles under your belt before you try adn run tren.. JMO ... but other then that things dont look too bad.. and do remember... you will have a little bloat from the test.. but keep your diet in check and exercise and i think you will see goo dgains

**Bigmax** · 09-10-2006, 12:34 PM

The cycle loks fine bro...If you feel comfortable with the amount of test then go for it...guys on here will tell you to take more test cause thats what they read here...at the same time guys that know what they're talking about have had libido issues for running low test....see what works for you and let us know.

**lucabratzi** · 09-10-2006, 12:40 PM

on second thought..i would run tren ace. just so if ur gettin harsh sides or low libido u can lower dosage and up test and any libido or other sides will go down faster...

**cfiler** · 09-10-2006, 12:48 PM

Your cycle looks good to me. I'd just start the winstrol in week 8, and run it for six weeks though.

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-10-2006, 01:48 PM

My reason for running test lower is I have ran 250mg and had no sexual sides. Actually my sex drive was even higher when I was on 250mg then it is now at 500. Biggest reason for keeping test low is to bring down the overall amount of gear taken but keeping some test in my body. I find that test doesn't seem to build muscle on me as much as any other compound I have used. Even superdrol seemed to build more lean mass on me then test.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 09-10-2006, 01:57 PM

5'10 195lbs...What were your stats before the test deca cycle?

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-10-2006, 02:26 PM

185 with same body fat...only put on 10 lbs in the last month and a half with it but I have been running letro and a very clean diet so I have not been putting on fat and water.

**skipp** · 09-10-2006, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by cfiler

Your cycle looks good to me. I'd just start the winstrol in week 8, and run it for six weeks though.

I agree to run it for 6 weeks, but start week 10 and run it right up to PCT.

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-10-2006, 06:55 PM

Alright sounds good. I iwll extened the duration of the winny a bit.

**Aliceinchains** · 09-10-2006, 07:35 PM

Both Finasteride and Dutasteride are 5ar enzyme blockers, they can prevent Test from converting to the highly androgenic Dihydrotest via the 5ar, and that is all. They cannot stop strong androgens such as Tren (or Test itself) from exerting their effects at the androgen receptor, and one of these effects is acceleration of hair loss in the genetically predisposed.

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-10-2006, 09:15 PM

So there is nothing that can help hairloss then? I have no hairloss issues on test however one compound did make me find some hairs in my hand when washing my hair in the morn and that was dbol . Soon as dbol stopped that problem went away.

**Aliceinchains** · 09-10-2006, 09:41 PM

Look around for topical Flutamide, Spironolactone, possibly combined with Minoxidil. Use Ketaconazol shampoo.
Flutamide and Spironolactone are anti-androgens that can be applied locally....nobody is sure why Minoxidil works...but one thing is certain, treatments are most effective in PREVENTING hairloss, not causing regrowth once it is gone...
You will find relevant threads at BBing.com...

**Aliceinchains** · 09-10-2006, 09:42 PM

Azelaic acid is another product to look for...

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 09-11-2006, 05:00 AM

I am not too sur about this but the people @ my barber shop sell NIOXIN........does that work?

**Aliceinchains** · 09-11-2006, 05:15 AM

You guys, look in the educational threads under hairloss, there is a site (in one of the posts) called wholesale hair products selling Spiro, Nizoral, and an Azelaic/ Minoxidil mix.