Lean quality bulking cycle. Am I way off here?

[Anadrol50_power]

Hello people!

Thinking of having a serious go at a 500mg a\week primobolan (injectable) cycle. Using T-bol as a cycle kickstarter the first 3-4 weeks. Aiming for 12-14 weeks in total cycle length.

For PCT I will end up having to run nolva only since I'm allergic to Clomid
How much finasteride will help on the hair you recon on a suchlike cycle?

I feel that another 20lbs of muscle on my 188lbs\6'2 frame would do just good. BF% is around 13 now maybe. I'll work hard and try to push the BF% digit down another 1(2) the next 6-8 weeks before starting the cycle.

I'm turning 26 in a month so I don't really feel like delaying this whole thing more. I would want to still be somewhat young and get those 20lbs extra than rather ending up in my 30's and having achived the same thing basically.

Any adjustments in regards to this and opinions would be appriciated!

Bring them on...

[T3/T4 GSR]

20lbs in 14 weeks on primo at 500 a week probably wont happen to be honest with you. I would do a real bulking cycle if you want 20lbs of mass. Have you cycled before?

[Anadrol50_power]

I've done TestE cycle (only 6 weeks) at 500 a\week. 1.5year ago. It bloated me beyond belive. Just 20lbs up in those weeks alone, started responding to the Enanthate ester by the end of week 2. Obviously most of them lbs where fat\water. However this tells me that I should stay away from highly androgenic compounds. Estrogen related sides where obviously a big issue for me ...so.

It's okey, was thinking of 20lbs in total more as a final achivement. Was thinking of this cycle as a good start.

[Bigmax]

Bro if you're looking to put some serious mass on with primo FORGET it...its a mild AAS and its not a bad one but at 500mgs...it wont give you the results you're looking for.....what is your cycle experience???

[aadrenaline]

clean bulk you want ay?

run
Prop-75mg-100mg ED 1-12
Eq-600mg 1-12
tren -75mgED 1-6


that sould put some nice size

[magic32]

[Anadrol50_power]It bloated me beyond belive.

This is where AI's come into play!

this tells me that I should stay away from highly androgenic compounds. Estrogen related sides where obviously a big issue for me ...so.

Simply fictitious. You should do some more research, specifically on ancillaries and their impact on estrogen related side effects.

And I'm with Bigmax on the Primo, you'd be better off increasing your Tbol.

Just do some more studying, it'll become crystal clear.

M.

[AlwaysLearning]

what about winstrol and test prop?
can someone list the good options for none water retentive AAS combinations for size?

[aadrenaline]

what about winstrol and test prop?
can someone list the good options for none water retentive AAS combinations for size?

sure..theres a tab that says search at the top of the page

[Hellmaskbanned]

Looks to me like you need to forget about aas & learn how to gain natural first.
6'2'' 188lbs + you've already done a cycle of test...6 weeks 500mgs counts to me as a cycle.

[Anadrol50_power]

Looks to me like you need to forget about aas & learn how to gain natural first.
6'2'' 188lbs + you've already done a cycle of test...6 weeks 500mgs counts to me as a cycle.

Getting those extra 15+lbs naturally and we're talking at least 2years with a consistant on target routine, more like 3 probably. I don't mean to sound lame but to me the solution is obvious here. With AAS I can get there by next summer. Why *waste* more time than I have to

Beeing 6'2\188lbs @ approx 13% BF I don't see this as the worst possible stats to start cycling with.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Getting those extra 15+lbs naturally and we're talking at least 2years with a consistant on target routine, more like 3 probably. I don't mean to sound lame but to me the solution is obvious here. With AAS I can get there by next summer. Why *waste* more time than I have to

Beeing 6'2\188lbs @ approx 13% BF I don't see this as the worst possible stats to start cycling with.

It's not the worst but they are far from good.

Try 1 year at most. Your undersized for your height. If you corrected your diet and got serious you would achieve this in a year. Solid keepable natural gains. Not blow up then lose all and be back to 188 after summer. Well do as you wish , your problem is your diet, workout routine, rest or all of the above.

[Anadrol50_power]

It's not the worst but they are far from good.

Try 1 year at most. Your undersized for your height. If you corrected your diet and got serious you would achieve this in a year. Solid keepable natural gains. Not blow up then lose all and be back to 188 after summer. Well do as you wish , your problem is your diet, workout routine, rest or all of the above.

I hear ya...however at this stage I'm far from capable of getting those 15+LBS naturally in a year. I'm 26 years old, not 18. I do however agree that another year would be the *right* thing to do. Talking lean mass gains, not combined with a shitload of fat.

I will do this, not sure what cycle I should go with though
It's true that I did not use AI to combat water retention during that last TEST-E cycle. Guess I'm not too sure of how much water it'll keep of me. Don't wanna risk getting that moon face again. Can't have too many people around asking questions either.