hows my firstcycle look?

[tek.]

Hey bros, sitting at 5'11 182lbs 9-10% got my gear for my first cycle hows it look? Looking to get maximum lbm keeping fatloss gains to a minimum. I got alot of gear too is it worth frontloading? appreciate any advice!

Weeks 1 - 6 : DBOL 40mg ED
Weeks 1 - 12 : Test-E 600mg EW
Weeks 1 - 12 : DECA 400mg EW
Weeks 9 - 12 : Winny 50mg ED

[MattY_D]

way too much, standard first cycle should be 500mg test e split and shot twice a week..thats it!

you'd be insane to run all those compounds for your first cycle

you need to do alot of reseach my friend b4 you go jumping into things

do you even have a PCT ready, if you dont know what that is i suggest you research it heavily until your eyes bleed, then buy what you need for it.

also go check out mudmans sticky "Cycles for newbies" very useful information

[soccer#3]

i'd have to agree wit matty, 4 compounds for a first cycle is a little too much

[AllGearedUp]

If your body gets all messed up, your not going to know what messed you up. Stick to test e 500mg a week. See how your body reacts to that. If all goes well, then you can add another compound on your next cycle. If you decide not too listen, and go with what you have. Good luck!

[Surrender]

Hey bros, sitting at 5'11 182lbs 9-10% got my gear for my first cycle hows it look? Looking to get maximum lbm keeping fatloss gains to a minimum. I got alot of gear too is it worth frontloading? appreciate any advice!

Weeks 1 - 6 : DBOL 40mg ED
Weeks 1 - 12 : Test-E 600mg EW
Weeks 1 - 12 : DECA 400mg EW
Weeks 9 - 12 : Winny 50mg ED

You have to much gear. Should have saved your money and done more researching here which is free.

You gave a few stats, but how old are you?

[SMAN12b]

Answer ALL the questions in green below. then we can help. as stated above, WAY too much for your first cycle. there is NO need for it and you will not know what is and isn't working for you or causing you side effects.

[italianplayboy09]

way too much, standard first cycle should be 500mg test e split and shot twice a week..thats it!
you'd be insane to run all those compounds for your first cycle

you need to do alot of reseach my friend b4 you go jumping into things

do you even have a PCT ready, if you dont know what that is i suggest you research it heavily until your eyes bleed, then buy what you need for it.

also go check out mudmans sticky "Cycles for newbies" very useful information

wrong...you can run a steroid with a first cycle. not all those that he listed of course but you can run test with dbol or anadrol for a first cycle

[italianplayboy09]

Hey bros, sitting at 5'11 182lbs 9-10% got my gear for my first cycle hows it look? Looking to get maximum lbm keeping fatloss gains to a minimum. I got alot of gear too is it worth frontloading? appreciate any advice!

Weeks 1 - 6 : DBOL 40mg ED
Weeks 1 - 12 : Test-E 600mg EW
Weeks 1 - 12 : DECA 400mg EW
Weeks 9 - 12 : Winny 50mg ED

that is an insane cycle man, wtf are you thinking? what do you have planned for pct?

[tek.]

wow ok damn, my bro suggested that hes been cycling for a few years. Ive got pct sorted, clomid/nolva.. im 23 thanks for lookin out guys but yeah ive done my research too i know its a heavier cycle but its not stupid. I just tossed the winny in at the end to hopefully dry me out a tad.. ive got stacks of winny here guess i could save it

[italianplayboy09]

wow ok damn, my bro suggested that hes been cycling for a few years. Ive got pct sorted, clomid/nolva.. im 23 thanks for lookin out guys but yeah ive done my research too i know its a heavier cycle but its not stupid

if this is gonna be your first cycle and you are gonna take that many compounds then yea its stupid. why dont you just stick to test and dbol or drol?

[tek.]

if this is gonna be your first cycle and you are gonna take that many compounds then yea its stupid. why dont you just stick to test and dbol or drol?

Alright bro point taken, so what doses would you guys recommend?

Weeks 1 - 12 : Test-E 600mg EW
Weeks 1 - 6 : DBOL 40mg ED
Weeks 13-16 : Clomid 150-100mg ED(first2), Nolvadex 40mg ED

looks ok yeah?, im just greedy i guess i want the maximum gains in the littlest time like everyone else..

[SMAN12b]

Still looks bad, you have no idea about the MOST important part which is PCT
Cut back on the dbol for the first cycle to. go 4 weeks
Test doesn't need to be that high for a first run, if you start high, you will always have to run higher and higher NOT SMART

[italianplayboy09]

like sman said get your pct straight b/c the doses you have listed are wrong. run the test at 500mg a week, dbol for the first 4 weeks and i would start at 30mg ED then bump it up if you need to

[SMAN12b]

Alright bro point taken, so what doses would you guys recommend?

Weeks 1 - 12 : Test-E 600mg EW
Weeks 1 - 6 : DBOL 40mg ED
Weeks 13-16 : Clomid 150-100mg ED(first2), Nolvadex 40mg ED

looks ok yeah?, im just greedy i guess i want the maximum gains in the littlest time like everyone else..

That is NOT greed, that is IMMATURITY !!!
you can make incredible gains off ONE compound....you don't need that much to make gains especially the first time out.

This is NOT more is better this is YOUR HPTA dammit....screw it up and you don't get another

[italianplayboy09]

yea tek you got that...damnit?

[Kale]

wrong...you can run a steroid with a first cycle. not all those that he listed of course but you can run test with dbol or anadrol for a first cycle

I dont agree with this. The only gyno sides I ever got were from Dbol . If I had done dbol and Test on my first cycle I would not have know which one caused the gyno as a result I will never use dbol again. Just something to think about guys.

[italianplayboy09]

I dont agree with this. The only gyno sides I ever got were from Dbol. If I had done dbol and Test on my first cycle I would not have know which one caused the gyno as a result I will never use dbol again. Just something to think about guys.

well isnt that why nolva is on hand? people should be aware of getting gyno from any compounds they just need to be prepared

[Kale]

On hand yes, but why use it if you dont need to. I didnt like dbol for other reasons as well, it was a huge appetite supressent and made me very lethargic. Nolvadex would not have fixed those issues. Sos again I would noy have know it was dbol causing the problem if I had it and Test in my first cycle

[italianplayboy09]

On hand yes, but why use it if you dont need to. I didnt like dbol for other reasons as well, it was a huge appetite supressent and made me very lethargic. Nolvadex would not have fixed those issues. Sos again I would noy have know it was dbol causing the problem if I had it and Test in my first cycle

well it is known that dbol causes those issues that you experienced. and it is also known that nolva is primarily used for gyno. so i would hope that people would know whats doing what and whats causing what. some people love dbol and can put up with those sides and some people dont get gyno from dbol at all. it seems like you really didnt know what to expect or what could happen when you did your first cycle

[Kale]

well it is known that dbol causes those issues that you experienced. and it is also known that nolva is primarily used for gyno. so i would hope that people would know whats doing what and whats causing what. some people love dbol and can put up with those sides and some people dont get gyno from dbol at all. it seems like you really didnt know what to expect or what could happen when you did your first cycle

Absolutely no fvcking idea Thats the beauty of this board

[Gunns420]

yeah bro- WAAAAAY too much gear. I gained 22 lbs in 12 weeks using 500mg a week of Test E. I would drop the DBOL completely- its all bloat in my opinion(yeah there is definetely strength gains) but the Winny may not be that bad- if you must add something else.

[SMAN12b]

well it is known that dbol causes those issues that you experienced. and it is also known that nolva is primarily used for gyno. so i would hope that people would know whats doing what and whats causing what. some people love dbol and can put up with those sides and some people dont get gyno from dbol at all. it seems like you really didnt know what to expect or what could happen when you did your first cycle

You can read and read and read all you want on what the POSSIBLE sides are of a compound, BUT everyone is different and each compound can react differently in each body, therefore no matter how much we think we know, unless we experience each compound ourselves.

Always good to have precautionary anchillaries on hand when dealing with this stuff


And if it makes ya feel better KALE, I had no clue what my trainer was telling me for my first cycle either.....lolol

That is why I love this board !!!

[Beefyman]

im doing 40-50mg dbol
400mgs equip split
500 mgs test e split

and DAMN BOY DBOL ROCKS THE SHIT!

[AllGearedUp]

drol > dbol

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

ya thats wayyy to much shit... try 500MG of test and toss in some dbol if u like.. but ud be amazed what the test alone will do

alot of people go..

test will bulk me.. deca will make me strong...dbol is classic juice.. and winyn will lean me out.. lets tooss it all together..


pfft stick to 1-2 compounds until your 4-5th cycles

[italianplayboy09]

drol > dbol

yea i plan on using drol whenever i start my cycle

[stumpy29]

way to much for a first timer.