Just started Phera-Plex Cycle .... Before Pics

**guest589745** · 09-28-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by BIG LITTLE MAN

I considered Winstrol and Dbol but decided not to take because Dbol makes ya bloat up, and I already have issues with that. I inquired about Winstrol on numerous occasions and was told it wouldn't be good for a first cycle. As for Test, I stronglly considered it, but Im fearful that it could cause hairloss as I have it in my genes.

well then maybe steroids arent for you?

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 09-28-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by IIIIIIIIIIII

thats the same as superdrol and those designer steroids... for what they are worth they put too much stress on the liver... and after a while im sure m not the only person sick seeing this kids diary pop up every hour..

Could this be an onset of aggression caused by the use of an anabolic steroid ?

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 09-28-2006, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

well then maybe steroids arent for you?

Maybe, maybe not. I have great genes when it comes to my body and then again I don't. Hairloss and easy weight gain from my mothers side and the body structure and ability to gain muscle mass in a shoter period of time then most from my fathers side, just not as fast as I'd like.

The easy weight gain is why I didn't want to take Dbol , afraid it would make me look more fat then more 'lean'

I guess PP is something to hold me over until I decide if I want to take the plunge or not.

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-02-2006, 05:15 PM

Day 7

Been off the last few days due to work, heading back to the gym this evening. First side effects have shown via acne on the back, nothing major, my back has always been clear so when a few pimples show up, I notice them. Only about 4-5. What can I take to help prevent this? Other then that everything has been fine. Today I increased my dosage to 30mgs, plan on running this for the next 14 days unless sides become serious.

**CoreyTampa09** · 10-02-2006, 06:39 PM

Hey man just curious, are you doing this cycle of phera-plex as a bulk or more of a cut. Im not sure if your running clen with it as well. How long have you been on clen for, what were your doses, and did you overall like Lions Clen. What calories are you consuming as well as your split. Im kinda interested becuase im considering a cycle a pherplex within 6 months as well.

**briancb1** · 10-02-2006, 08:22 PM

Keep up the progress bro and eat clean clean clean! You will put on good mass.

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-02-2006, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by CoreyTampa09

Hey man just curious, are you doing this cycle of phera-plex as a bulk or more of a cut. Im not sure if your running clen with it as well. How long have you been on clen for, what were your doses, and did you overall like Lions Clen. What calories are you consuming as well as your split. Im kinda interested becuase im considering a cycle a pherplex within 6 months as well.

More of a cutting cycle with the intention of putting on clean, lean mass. I was running Clen , one week prior to starting, then during my first week, today was my last day as your only supposed to use it for 2 weeks. I have to check my BF % again to see if it had any real effects on me. My weight has stayed the same since starting. I started Clen with 20mg and increased it daily by 20mg (one spray), I was able to take up to 120mg in one day but that was spread throughout, 3 spray in the morning and 3 sprays early afternoon. You definitely can feel the Clen, you gain a jolt of energy, and you certainly feel it while working out. On average Id say Im consuming 2000-2500 calories a day, it all depends on the day, I tend to eat more on my days off from work.

Im not quite sure if the PP has kicked in yet, like I said, wieghts the same but stamina while working out has improved, the pumps are great ....

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-02-2006, 09:04 PM

Day 7

Worked chest again today, I put up 245lbs for two sets at 10 reps each on decline bench, thats a great improvement for me!! Ive always been able to put up more on the decline but my last best was 205, and that wasn't at 10 reps. I was pretty much even in weight and reps today with a friend who has always been stronger and able to lift more then I, even he was surprised. Hoping to see some serious improvements this week, today I increased my dosage to 30mgs.

**stupidhippo** · 10-02-2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by BIG LITTLE MAN

Just last week I had all my stats takin' electronically, what are the chances this technic is wrong or off?

I put my bench so that theres something to compare when my cycle is over.

those electronic machines suck, they cant differentiate betweeen muscle and fat basicly..and if u have longer arms than the average person ur size that also throwas the machine off.. those electronic machines suck!! A BB right b4 a contest (won the contest too) got an 18% BF from the electronic machine (the advanced model too) -where u can type in the atthlete mode and what has 4 connections, arms + legs..

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-09-2006, 09:30 PM

Continuing increases in strength. This weekend again I missed the gym due to work. Starting back tomorrow. Still taking 30mg per day although I didn't take it Saturday and Sunday ... see new thread "Alcohol and Phera-Plex." Starting with dosages again tomorrow, have a modeling shoot in 2 week, this week I will be on strict diet and a more thourogh workout routine, so we'll see what happens.

PS: Not noticable increase in weight, will have BF% checked again this week.

**rada** · 10-09-2006, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by BIG LITTLE MAN

More of a cutting cycle with the intention of putting on clean, lean mass. I was running Clen , one week prior to starting, then during my first week, today was my last day as your only supposed to use it for 2 weeks. I have to check my BF % again to see if it had any real effects on me. My weight has stayed the same since starting. I started Clen with 20mg and increased it daily by 20mg (one spray), I was able to take up to 120mg in one day but that was spread throughout, 3 spray in the morning and 3 sprays early afternoon. You definitely can feel the Clen, you gain a jolt of energy, and you certainly feel it while working out. On average Id say Im consuming 2000-2500 calories a day, it all depends on the day, I tend to eat more on my days off from work.

Im not quite sure if the PP has kicked in yet, like I said, wieghts the same but stamina while working out has improved, the pumps are great ....

So are you cutting or bulking? 2000-2500 sounds like a maintenance/cutting number, not a bulking number..

**rada** · 10-09-2006, 11:15 PM

and with the clen by mg i hope you mean mcg

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-09-2006, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by rada

So are you cutting or bulking? 2000-2500 sounds like a maintenance/cutting number, not a bulking number..

I would say the last week and up untill now its been 2500-3000. Like I said, it varies daily.

And yes, I ment mcgs!!

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-09-2006, 11:22 PM

NOTE; Last 2 days Ive felt a very slight pain in lower right side, just below rib cage ... hope this isn't due to PP ....

Pain is slight and not consistant, but I know its there.

**SnaX** · 10-10-2006, 12:43 AM

I read this log tonight and you seem very into this, so good job on staying focused. Your hard work will pay off

. I also read you're taking a diuhretic. I orignally typed out some litle shpeel, but I'll keep it short cause this is just a personally opinion. If youre taking something thatis toxic to the liver, i would recomment drinking plenty of water, and maybe not a diuhretic. I would think keeping the body well hydrated would be more benefitial to your health in the long run. My main point is you have a lot of time ahead of you to make gains, so just be careful and IF a diuhretic with a liver toxic steroid is going to possible cause harm, and im not sure if it will, then i'd suggest an alternate route. (

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Im just concerned caus eyou said you were feeling pain. It could be nothing. But i just want to look out for you well being.

Someone else have any input, or maybe clerify what im trying to say? Im tired and getting sick so its bed time. Just curious if take toxic substance with diuhretic (hopefully not dehydrating and hurting your body) is safe, someone can put more input on that. dunno.. I R tired :P bleeeeeh.

But nice log! Im going to keep myself updated when you post buddy =)

**stupidhippo** · 10-10-2006, 03:07 AM

really depends... does he have hypertension? but in general I wouldnt recommend a diuretic if its not warranted..

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-10-2006, 09:08 AM

I still drink plenty of water everyday. I have noticed my lips are a bit dry tho. I was taking the diuretic to lose water weight obviously. My muscles tend to look more puffy then cut so I was using this for a little extra help. Good point tho, I will lay off using the diuretic till Im finished with the PP. And yes I do take this seriously ... it somewhat of a practice cycle for if and when I decide to do a 'real' steroid .

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-23-2006, 09:10 PM

All done. I definitely gained strength! I just put up 325lbs on the bench!

Overall my weight went up to 193lbs, and my body fat drop .6%

So that would lead one to believe I put on 7lbs of lean mass.

Im sure I could have put on more if my diet was in check, I ate clean for the most part with meals focusing around protein, but I still didn't get in what I should have ... on average Id say 200 grams per day.

Defintiely notice a difference in my physic, look leaner and more cut. If Phera-Plex can do this to me, my interest in a stronger steroid has definitely increased.

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 10-23-2006, 09:14 PM

Will be starting Novedex XT, Retain and Clen . Started Clen today, start the others Thursday.

**notorious_mem** · 10-30-2006, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by BIG LITTLE MAN

All done. I definitely gained strength! I just put up 325lbs on the bench!

Overall my weight went up to 193lbs, and my body fat drop .6%

So that would lead one to believe I put on 7lbs of lean mass.

Im sure I could have put on more if my diet was in check, I ate clean for the most part with meals focusing around protein, but I still didn't get in what I should have ... on average Id say 200 grams per day.

Defintiely notice a difference in my physic, look leaner and more cut. If Phera-Plex can do this to me, my interest in a stronger steroid has definitely increased.

you went from 230lbs to 325 on bench?

**BIG LITTLE MAN** · 11-02-2006, 06:40 AM

230 was on flat bench multiple times

325 was on decline, 3 times, nonetheless 325 is much more then my previous 250 on decline. Ill max out on flat today.

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**notorious_mem** · 11-04-2006, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by BIG LITTLE MAN

230 was on flat bench multiple times

325 was on decline, 3 times, nonetheless 325 is much more then my previous 250 on decline. Ill max out on flat today.

good job bro 325 on decline is a load.great log.

**Haro3** · 11-05-2006, 12:26 AM

hey big man, looks like ur making great gains but out of curiousity all i see is you talking about your bench press going up....i hope u know theres more to bodybuilding than bench pressing......?

**Growingpains** · 11-05-2006, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

hey big man, looks like ur making great gains but out of curiousity all i see is you talking about your bench press going up....i hope u know theres more to bodybuilding than bench pressing......?

**rafael** · 11-05-2006, 01:40 AM

for the back acne you can look for some Retin-A cream i suppose...

**spittin' 'n cussin'** · 11-05-2006, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by IIIIIIIIIIII

thats the same as superdrol and those designer steroids... for what they are worth they put too much stress on the liver... and after a while im sure m not the only person sick seeing this kids diary pop up every hour..

we're all tired of them, especially these bullshit pp and sd crap cycles (they need a section for abercombie model cycles) but IMHO the more i can see someone elses body react to something the better i can guage where mine is headed with similar stuff