Active hormone per 100mg of Hormone and ester

BG · 06-25-2006, 02:54 PM

Another Mod BajanBastard at Mind and Muscle posedt up this, good info to hold onto.

Thought this might help those who, like me, cycle by calculating the actual amount of active hormone per 100mg instead of just the drug and ester, 400mg of test prop gives you more active testosterone than a longer ester than say the undecanoate ester. (20% difference!)

Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate : 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate : 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg

Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg

Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg

Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg

Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg

Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

*Same.

Peep this. I worked it out from scratch so it could be accurate to 1-2mg.

BAJANBASTARD from Mind and Muscle

My bad, didnt relize it was a sticky, any for those who havent seen it yet.

**briansauras** · 06-25-2006, 03:11 PM

good post

**Merc..** · 06-25-2006, 03:23 PM

Oooooppppppppsssssss

***SPIKE*** · 06-25-2006, 03:36 PM

BG, you're slackin brotha, this was posted up here a while back.

Definitley a great bump though.........

BG · 06-25-2006, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jayhova

BG, you're slackin brotha, this was posted up here a while back.

Definitley a great bump though.........

HAHAHA, ya I havent been around here much,when I spoke to Bajan he told me Nark already posted it, oh-well.

**C_Bino** · 06-25-2006, 05:49 PM

LMAO. BajanBastard ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... I have been over to that site a few times and the guy is a real prick, always trying to show off with his research etc. I think he's just a total jerk-off and wouldn't trust this post...

LMAO...sorry Big K I couldnt resist.

**Merc..** · 06-25-2006, 05:51 PM

Lol !!!!!!

***BajanBastard*** · 06-25-2006, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by C_Bino

LMAO. BajanBastard ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh ... I have been over to that site a few times and the guy is a real prick, always trying to show off with his research etc. I think he's just a total jerk-off and wouldn't trust this post...

LMAO...sorry Big K I couldnt resist.

Facker!

**guest589745** · 06-25-2006, 06:04 PM

I was gonna say....."I coulda swore Big K wrote this shit" lol.

You still gonna change it K?

Good info regardless.

***BajanBastard*** · 06-25-2006, 06:10 PM

Yeah i gotta add some more hormones but haven't gotten round to it yet.

**guest589745** · 06-25-2006, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Yeah i gotta add some more hormones but haven't gotten round to it yet.

Thats good to know too but, I meant yer name.

***BajanBastard*** · 06-25-2006, 06:23 PM

Oh ok

I requested a name change but it was ignored it seems.

**guest589745** · 06-25-2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Oh ok

I requested a name change but it was ignored it seems.

Hmmm, my name change was pretty quick.

***Narkissos*** · 06-25-2006, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Oh ok

I requested a name change but it was ignored it seems.

I'll try again.

***Narkissos*** · 06-26-2006, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I'll try again.

done...

(thanks B)

***BajanBastard*** · 06-26-2006, 11:32 PM

I only realised when i post in Tai's thread, thank to you both.

BG · 10-17-2006, 09:00 AM

Bump

**Property of Steroid.com** · 10-17-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by BajanBastard

I only realised when i post in Tai's thread, thank to you both.

Now if you'll only check your e-mail and reply to the person trying to send you free shit, you'll be batting a thousand....

***Narkissos*** · 10-17-2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts

Now if you'll only check your e-mail and reply to the person trying to send you free shit, you'll be batting a thousand....

Good luck.. He doesn't reply to me and we're pratically neighbours

**mkrulic** · 10-17-2006, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Another Mod BajanBastard at Mind and Muscle posedt up this, good info to hold onto.

Thought this might help those who, like me, cycle by calculating the actual amount of active hormone per 100mg instead of just the drug and ester, 400mg of test prop gives you more active testosterone than a longer ester than say the undecanoate ester. (20% difference!)

Milligrams below are the estimated amount of active hormone per 100mg of hormone and ester.

Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate : 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate : 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg

Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg

Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg

Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg

Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg

Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg

Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate : 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate : 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate : 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg

Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

*Same.

Peep this. I worked it out from scratch so it could be accurate to 1-2mg.

BAJANBASTARD from Mind and Muscle

My bad, didnt relize it was a sticky, any for those who havent seen it yet.

Its interesting that the same ester has different weights when attached to different hormones. shouldnt the weight of the ester be constant?

**Andros** · 10-17-2006, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

Its interesting that the same ester has different weights when attached to different hormones. shouldnt the weight of the ester be constant?

Its the Ester thats different look again.

Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

Trenbolone is the hormone. And two different esters can have the same molecular weight, but I don't know if those two actually do, you'd have to work it out.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-17-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

Its interesting that the same ester has different weights when attached to different hormones. shouldnt the weight of the ester be constant?

Its actually pretty close...+/- 1mg

**mkrulic** · 10-17-2006, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Andros

Its the Ester thats different look again.

Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*

Trenbolone is the hormone. And two different esters can have the same molecular weight, but I don't know if those two actually do, you'd have to work it out.

no this is what Im talking about:
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84m
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg

Its probably due to rounding errors.

**Andros** · 10-17-2006, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

no this is what Im talking about:
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84m
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Clostebol Enanthate : 72mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg

Its probably due to rounding errors.

Well in that case its not the ester that weights different but the hormone.

E.g: Boldenone is 1mg lighter then Clostebol, so with the same ester attached the will weight different by 1mg.

**fLgAtOr** · 10-17-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Andros

Well in that case its not the ester that weights different but the hormone.

E.g: Boldenone is 1mg lighter then Clostebol, so with the same ester attached the will weight different by 1mg.

Good point.

Kinda like when homebrewing, you can use anywhere from .75-.85 for the displacement of your powde depending on the compoundr?

**mkrulic** · 10-17-2006, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Andros

Well in that case its not the ester that weights different but the hormone.

E.g: Boldenone is 1mg lighter then Clostebol, so with the same ester attached the will weight different by 1mg.

my understanding is like this:
total weight = ester weight + hormone weight

(1) 100mg = Boldenone weight + ester weight
(2) 100mg = Clostebol weight + ester weight

subtracting (2) from (1) yeilds:
Boldenone weight - Clostebol weight = 0
which implies:
Boldenone weight = Clostebol weight
this assumes ester weight is the same.

**mkrulic** · 10-17-2006, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

Good point.

Kinda like when homebrewing, you can use anywhere from .75-.85 for the displacement of your powde depending on the compoundr?

I've found that to be true. thats why I allways short the mix

**Andros** · 10-17-2006, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by mkrulic

my understanding is like this:
total weight = ester weight + hormone weight

(1) 100mg = Boldenone weight + ester weight
(2) 100mg = Clostebol weight + ester weight

subtracting (2) from (1) yeilds:
Boldenone weight - Clostebol weight = 0
which implies:
Boldenone weight = Clostebol weight
this assumes ester weight is the same.

I see what you are saying but 100mg of Boldenone acetate doesn't have the same number of molecules as 100mg of clostebol acetate as their atomic weight is different so....

Acetate = 60.0524
Boldenone=286.4132
Clostebol=322.8741

So
Boldenone Acetate=346.4656
Clostebol Acetate=382.9265

Therefore in 100mg of powder there are.
Boldenone Acetate= 1.738164x10^23
Clostebol Acetate= 1.572663x10^23

So even though you take the same Ester with the same weight away, you take away different amounts of ester in 100mg of Boldenone then you do of Clostebol acetates.

**mkrulic** · 10-17-2006, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Andros

I see what you are saying but 100mg of Boldenone acetate doesn't have the same number of molecules as 100mg of clostebol acetate as their atomic weight is different so....

Acetate = 60.0524
Boldenone=286.4132
Clostebol=322.8741

So
Boldenone Acetate=346.4656
Clostebol Acetate=382.9265

Therefore in 100mg of powder there are.
Boldenone Acetate= 1.738164x10^23
Clostebol Acetate= 1.572663x10^23

So even though you take the same Ester with the same weight away, you take away different amounts of ester in 100mg of Boldenone then you do of Clostebol acetates.

enlightening. good post