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    thedudeplus is offline New Member
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    1st timer, mid TestE pissed off. Overtraining? Help

    Im right in the middle of week 5 of a Enanthate only (250mg e5d) noob style
    6'4 220 10-11%. Ive had minimal gains (size-wise) and Im starting to get frustrated. Any help would be awesome so Ill just dump everything on you.
    Diet:
    9am - 8egg whites, 1 cup oatmeal with soy milk and cinnamon ... maybe a scoop of whey.
    11am - 1 chicken breast or turkey sando on whole wheat (plain), banana
    1am - small piece of steak, sweet pot.
    2pm - lift
    PWO - shake, 2 rice cake w/ natty pnut
    30 minutes later - 2 chicken breast, brown rice, brocoli
    5pm - small steak or chicken breast, <1 cup pasta, yam
    8pm - 2 natty pnut butter on toast, small bowl fat free yogurt w/ little flax cereal
    9 or 10 or 11 - shake and a handful whatever raw veges are in the fridge (carrots, asparagus, whatever)
    (I'm not sure on the total stats for each of those ... just got a diet analysis program today and I'm gonna run the numbers)
    .... that looks alright? no?
    Vitas look like this:
    Multi, B-100, C, E, Zinc, Niacin, Cranberry, Green Tea, teaspoon of flax (all with breakfast)
    Water has gotta be fine because, almost near clear or crystal.

    Lift 4 on 1 off...
    1: Chest/ABs
    2: Back/Bi
    3: Shoulder/Tri
    4: Legs/ ABs
    5: Off
    then repeat
    (some variation split by split)
    Am I overtraining?
    No cardio other than walking the dog or girlfriend.
    Sleep 7-8 per night, rock solid lights out.

    oh yea, and .25 L-dex ed, 10mg nolva ed.

    Results:
    no water, no acne, normal agression, normal sexdrive, workout intensity has improved I guess ... but thats probably just motiviation. gained probably 4 to 5lbs, probably some fatloss too..
    Squat and deadlift are significantly up-- bench has slightly improved -- arms and shoulders haven't grown a 1/2 inch I dont think. Great pumps while lifting, better than before.

    What do you think? Overtraining? Not eating enough? Overthinking? Not patient enough? Help me out... thanks.

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    well the diet could do with some work but you should still see things like increased sex drive. Test E doesn't kick in for a while but sex drive is normally up by week 3-4. Are you 100% about the gear?

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    everything seems in order for you right now. the only thing that really stands out is that you are only in middle of week 5. come week 8 I dont think you will be so frustrated & unhappy. also--test E should be shot every 3.5days-noob or not.

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    dang thats fast!
    Yeah, jugo is from legit source.
    What diet changes would you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    well the diet could do with some work but you should still see things like increased sex drive. Test E doesn't kick in for a while but sex drive is normally up by week 3-4. Are you 100% about the gear?
    I agree about the diet. You definatly need to improve that and I bet you could get great gains naturally. And IMHO you aren't using enough test e. In order to see significant gains I feel you should use a minimum or 500mgs per week preferably 250mgs e3d. I just don't think you're gonna get much out of 250 every 5 days...

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    seems like you are on a cutting diet almost--eat more food & get more good fats pro/carb & pro fat meals work for me

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    you are mixing fats with carbs which I find tends to make you fat. Also the carb sources for a couple of the meals are not great (toast,sanwiches) there are better options. I wouldn't eat yoghurt or any shop bought cereal. Basically I would clean it up but increase cals. You should still see some results with the diet you have, Im not saying its awful, just that it could be improved.

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    Thanks bros.
    Like I said, this was a 1st timer type of deal. I've always heard better to start low and go up then start high and higher... right now 250 e5d is all I can manage if this is gonna go 12 weeks. If I could land more, would it be ok to bump dosage right now? Even so, that might not be possible............ so,
    what can I do to the diet to get the most out of what Ive got? Jugo is alot harder to find than the grocery store.

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    well if you are starting low then you may have to deal with frustration & disappointment compared to what you may have expected. maybe shorten it to 10weeks(or get more) but I would bump it up to 500mg per week shot EV 3.5days to maximize & keep stable levels in your system. like PBEAST said.. eat pro/fat pro/carb dont mix carb/fat together & get rid of the toast/bread--theres better sources. load up on veggies/salad

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    check out the diet forum stickies. Some great posts there to base a diet on. Get some more test!

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