Those who HAVE done the 10mg Dbol Bridge

[dr_skier]

Please comment on:

-the duration of your bridge
-The side effects
-the pct ran with bridge
-when the dbol was started, and how long between discontinuing the dbol and the next cycle
-any crash after the dbol with pct
-strength/keep gains etc
-bloodwork if done and when


Thank you Everyone!!!

[IBdmfkr]

I could think of many other drugs that would be better to bridge with.

Also why not recover rather than keep yourself shutdown?

[dr_skier]

There is ample literature out there that suggests any sort of endogenous hormones will keep you suppressed and there is also ample literature that suggests the 10mg am dbol method is very minimally suppressive. I just want to try something new that is all. This in my mind allows for most recovery and a positive anabolic effect while avoiding crashing post cycle. I also like the cortisol reduction that this has been proven to provide for maintaining stength and size. I also like the fact that it also keeps you from crashing sexually. Mostly I'd just like to try something new that A LOT of people rave about. Many on this board are anti-bridging or are more for the literature that the 10mg am dbol post pct will keep you suppressed. I was just looking for peoples personal experiences.

[Swifto]

There is ample literature out there that suggests any sort of endogenous hormones will keep you suppressed and there is also ample literature that suggests the 10mg am dbol method is very minimally suppressive. I just want to try something new that is all. This in my mind allows for most recovery and a positive anabolic effect while avoiding crashing post cycle. I also like the cortisol reduction that this has been proven to provide for maintaining stength and size. I also like the fact that it also keeps you from crashing sexually. Mostly I'd just like to try something new that A LOT of people rave about. Many on this board are anti-bridging or are more for the literature that the 10mg am dbol post pct will keep you suppressed. I was just looking for peoples personal experiences.

I have not done this, though am intrested.

I will be getting bloodwork done next cycle to see if my pituitray begins to function again after using Test Prop, but whilst still on Primo and possibly Tbol or Var. If it does, it would suggest recovery be easier than baing fully shutdown for the duration of the cycle. Dropping off the more suppressive compound first, may infact mean PCT is easier and gains are easier to attain.

[skipp]

I've head of a lot of people bridging var and being very succesful.. and a few with dbol . But out of the two people I know that did the dbol, neither had positive things to say.

If you do decide to go through with it, let us know how it goes.

[Iron-man]

There is ample literature out there that suggests any sort of endogenous hormones will keep you suppressed and there is also ample literature that suggests the 10mg am dbol method is very minimally suppressive. I just want to try something new that is all. This in my mind allows for most recovery and a positive anabolic effect while avoiding crashing post cycle. I also like the cortisol reduction that this has been proven to provide for maintaining stength and size. I also like the fact that it also keeps you from crashing sexually. Mostly I'd just like to try something new that A LOT of people rave about. Many on this board are anti-bridging or are more for the literature that the 10mg am dbol post pct will keep you suppressed. I was just looking for peoples personal experiences.

I am interested in this as well. Some of my research supports the concept of a 10mg dbol bridge through PCT. The cortisol reduction in particular. I hope someone posts their experiences (positive ones I hope ).

[IBdmfkr]

I've tried Proviron at 50mg/day and remained shutdown, had to run another PCT.

IMO you're either on or off, so either cruise and retain gains or come off..
There are probably 1000 threads on this subject, run a search.

[Anon Poster]

I tried the 10mg D-bol morning smuggling hypothesis once, run on it's own between cycles and not as a bridge.

I didn't notice any benefits or detriments.

Since it didn't do anything advantageous for me as a stand alone, I haven't been inclined to compromise a PCT with it.

[james21]

I think it just keeps the feeling of you being on.... and of course it keeps muscle. I ran it for 10 weeks bloodwork came back dead on but orals dont really effect me that much negativaly. No bloat... its just like running a supplement. Still get pumps too.

[skipp]

I've tried Proviron at 50mg/day and remained shutdown, had to run another PCT.

IMO you're either on or off, so either cruise and retain gains or come off..
There are probably 1000 threads on this subject, run a search.

Did you run a blood test to determine this?? if so, that's big news to me.

[james21]

Proviron at 50-75mg/day never suppressed me at all

[Kale]

Better off doing PCT and using HGH and IGF to maintain gains. Bridging is a crap idea, you are either on or you are off !!!

[james21]

Better off doing PCT and using HGH and IGF to maintain gains. Bridging is a crap idea, you are either on or you are off !!!

Much agree, IGF is a much better idea than running a dbol bridge for most people.

[thebrakes]

I've tried Proviron at 50mg/day and remained shutdown, had to run another PCT.

IMO you're either on or off, so either cruise and retain gains or come off..
There are probably 1000 threads on this subject, run a search.

that has nothing to do with proviron. your cycle shut you down, and it took longer than your PCT duration to recover. dunno why you claim it is otherwise.

clinical studies show proviron at <120mg/day is not suppressive.

[Columbus]

THIS IS NOT MY POST....THIS IS FROM FONZ..............*****






I've been reading some of the posts regarding this
bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed
to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone,
brand name Dianabol .

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that
its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the
benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by
its androgenic mode of action.
Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular
function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind
dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest?

Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning.
This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest?

Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel.
(Also fat, but protein is also being converted
to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us
(Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)

Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode.
He has just woken up.
The body is about to release tesosterone, thus
creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low.
His LH and test levels are very low.



He pops 10mgs of dianabol.

Here is where things get interesting.

The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone
released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled.
It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone
(above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL
REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY
RECOVER over time.
Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss
in the morning from low insulogenic levels.

HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong.

You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!!

Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs
(Probably less)

5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise
in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus,
LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY
testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further,
thus not allowing LH function to recover.

Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.

The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference
between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up:

Beginning: LOW LH and test.

Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as
testosterone levels are kept at a level which
will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects
will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone
reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to
INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS.
I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore
complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90%
of the way there but the only way you're going
to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely.
Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it
throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE
once in the AM.

Hope that clears the air.
fonz

[plzr8]

Better off doing PCT and using HGH and IGF to maintain gains. Bridging is a crap idea, you are either on or you are off !!!

couldn't agree more!

[GHO5T]

The whole "bridge" idea is another way of saying, i dont want to come off aas.

IMO there is no point to bridging, personally i dont see the challenge and satisfaction if one were to bridge with any compound.

The challenge for me is how much of the gains i can keep from my cycle after im done naturally, and the satisfaction that i get from keeping a good amount of those gains naturally to me is very beneficial and motivating. It also keeps me more spot on with my diet and training because i know that im going to have to keep these two aspects spot on to a higher degree since im trying to keep gains naturally w/o the help of any compounds.

[love 2 lift]

very Interesting Read!