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    Question Steroid = hair loss ?

    Hi !

    First sorry for my bad grammar, I am french from Canada.

    My father is 55 and he is almost bald, suffering like 70 % of the population of androgenic alopecia, also call Male pattern baldness.

    I am 28 years old, and I never lose any hair before, but last year I did a cycle of 12 week of:

    Testosterone -Enanthate 500 MG a week +
    Deca - Durabolin 400 Mg a week.

    And I realize that it made me lose hair, specially a hair receding from the lateral sides of the forehead and an additional bald patch had develop on top (vertex).

    But, I gained 25 pounds with that cycle.

    I want to restart doing the same cycle, but I am afraid of accelrating my hair loss.

    Can I do a cycle of Deca 400 Mg a week itself ?

    The hair that I loss will ever come back one day, or never ?

    If am going to be bald because of steroid , i rather don't take it at all.

    What is your advice to minize the hair loss effect, I heard that you cannot take Propecia with Deca.

    Is Deca alone really bad about hair loss ?

    Thanks
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    Hairloss is maternal...

    It your past cycle made you lose hair, doing it again will do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fLgAtOr
    Hairloss is maternal...
    It your past cycle made you lose hair, doing it again will do the same.
    This is wrong: http://www.retane.com/hair-loss-trea...-loss-myth.htm

    Myth: Hair Loss is Inherited From the Mother's Side

    FACT: The majority of hair loss in both men and women are genetics - that is, hair loss is a hereditary trait and can be inherited from either the mother's or father's side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessy
    This is wrong: http://www.retane.com/hair-loss-trea...-loss-myth.htm

    Myth: Hair Loss is Inherited From the Mother's Side

    FACT: The majority of hair loss in both men and women are genetics - that is, hair loss is a hereditary trait and can be inherited from either the mother's or father's side.
    Well shucks...maybe im in luck then.

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    in the future...hair will be a thing of the past...grass doesn't grow on a busy street brother...

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    hehe.. .Yeah just shave it all off.. .who needs hair anyway! U wanna look big and scary - and bald works for that!! Haha ... just kidding, I know hair is important for some of u prettyboys

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    Which one is worse ?

    Deca or tests ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessy
    Which one is worse ?

    Deca or tests ?
    Test is worst if youre prone.

    B/c test converts to DHT thrue the 5ar, which is an even stronger androgen than testosterone is. Deca however, converts to DHN thrue the same mechanism, which is a milder androgen than Nadrolone is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Test is worst if youre prone.

    B/c test converts to DHT thrue the 5ar, which is an even stronger androgen than testosterone is. Deca however, converts to DHN thrue the same mechanism, which is a milder androgen than Nadrolone is.
    i was thinking of runinng deca only because of hairloss issues as well along with cabergoline i think ,i am still looking into it,i dunno about runing hrt doses of test cause i am thinking that it might cause hairloss still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Test is worst if youre prone.

    B/c test converts to DHT thrue the 5ar, which is an even stronger androgen than testosterone is. Deca however, converts to DHN thrue the same mechanism, which is a milder androgen than Nadrolone is.
    Would it be possible to run a cycle of Deca alone then ?

    Like 400 Mg a week for 10 week ?

    If I really don't want to lose more hair but still have some benefit from steroid .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessy
    Would it be possible to run a cycle of Deca alone then ?

    Like 400 Mg a week for 10 week ?

    If I really don't want to lose more hair but still have some benefit from steroid.
    Deca is the only AAS that wont hurt your hair if you are prone b/c of the reasen I explained.

    You could run a deca only if hair-loss is your major concern, but libido problems can occur. Atleast use cabergoline with it to reduce prolactin levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Deca is the only AAS that wont hurt your hair if you are prone b/c of the reasen I explained.

    You could run a deca only if hair-loss is your major concern, but libido problems can occur. Atleast use cabergoline with it to reduce prolactin levels.
    can you answer my question pls..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy
    i was thinking of runinng deca only because of hairloss issues as well along with cabergoline i think ,i am still looking into it,i dunno about runing hrt doses of test cause i am thinking that it might cause hairloss still...
    Like I said deca gets converted to DHN which is present in the scalp tissues, not b/c DHN has no effect at all, but the reduction in testosterone /DHT levels will more than make up for the strenght that DHN have on the scalp. (As you know, testosterone production will be shut down on a deca only cycle).

    If you add an HRT dose of testosterone with deca, than it will not be harmless on the scalp anymore, if you are prone to mpb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Like I said deca gets converted to DHN which is present in the scalp tissues, not b/c DHN has no effect at all, but the reduction in testosterone /DHT levels will more than make up for the strenght that DHN have on the scalp. (As you know, testosterone production will be shut down on a deca only cycle).

    If you add an HRT dose of testosterone with deca, than it will not be harmless on the scalp anymore, if you are prone to mpb.
    can you post more info about cabergoline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Like I said deca gets converted to DHN which is present in the scalp tissues, not b/c DHN has no effect at all, but the reduction in testosterone /DHT levels will more than make up for the strenght that DHN have on the scalp. (As you know, testosterone production will be shut down on a deca only cycle).

    If you add an HRT dose of testosterone with deca, than it will not be harmless on the scalp anymore, if you are prone to mpb.
    I am sorry, my first language is french, but can you explain me in a simple word what would happen if I add enanthe to my cycle of deca ? Will I lose more hair ?

    And if I run Deca alone 400 mg a week for 10 week , Am i going to see more progress then doing nothing ? I mean is Deca alone can be helpful ?

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    What can some one take and how much or frequent should one take it to block dht and thus saving themselves from balding ?

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    Listen people , pick one !

    MUSCLE OR HAIR: CASE CLOSED

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSM4Life
    Listen people , pick one !

    MUSCLE OR HAIR: CASE CLOSED
    or you can play around it wisely and have both

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    yeah true....but there are many questions in here that need to be reserached on your own time (not you specifically bro). As much as everyone is trying to help, we don't have time to post every bit of info on caber, propecia, or deca only cycles, etc etc....

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    deca on its own is fine,if your worried about hairloss,id run hcg with it also.

    an alternative is to run a maintainence dose of test,as you could suffer from labido issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helium3
    deca on its own is fine,if your worried about hairloss,id run hcg with it also.

    an alternative is to run a maintainence dose of test,as you could suffer from labido issues.
    i am curious if anyone did that before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helium3
    deca on its own is fine,if your worried about hairloss,id run hcg with it also.

    an alternative is to run a maintainence dose of test,as you could suffer from labido issues.
    Yes its true, to be on the minmum side. This can be done.

    Choisi tes cheveux ou ton corps. Peu importe quest tu fait tu va les perdre eventuellement. Meme si tu prend du finasteride et/ou nizoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy
    i am curious if anyone did that before?
    bump

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    Try replacing deca for equipoise , and then you are safe to go with propecia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva
    Try replacing deca for equipoise, and then you are safe to go with propecia.
    deca is more anabolic than equi ..

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    infact npp would be a better choice than deca as its a shorter ester,this would help in recovery(cycle could be shorter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy
    i am curious if anyone did that before?
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    So If I am running Deca alone 400 MG a week, I will be fine with my hair ?

    Should I see a big improvement with Deca alone ?

    Why I cannot take Propecia with Deca ?

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    Keep your cycle the same and use DUTASTERIDE....It worked well for me....I acutally have more hair AFTER my cycle than I had before.
    Last edited by rhino1; 11-06-2006 at 10:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino1
    Keep your cycle the same and use DUTASTERIDE....It worked well for me....I acutally have more hair AFTER my cycle than I had before.
    A lot of people have said here to NOT use propecia and Deca at the same time.

    Dutasteride is very likely like Propecia, almost the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessy
    A lot of people have said here to NOT use propecia and Deca at the same time.

    Dutasteride is very likely like Propecia, almost the same thing.
    Show my studies ?

    I used Deca and Dutasteride with my last cycle and i am still ticking.

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    well if hes running a deca only cycle why would he need dutra?

    if your going to run a test/deca cycle do this:

    Buy Nioxin Shampoo
    Buy Nizoral Shampoo
    Take 1mg saw palmetto ed(or beta something, containing phytoestro's)
    use fina or dutra if you think you need it, on my test e only cycle my hair got really thing, and it didn't recede nor did i get a bald spot, but my hairline on my left side of my head is visible..wtf ? haha, no one in my family, mom or dads side is bald, in fact there like 70 with a full head of hair. maybe my dad is not my dad;[ im a bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by odix
    well if hes running a deca only cycle why would he need dutra?

    if your going to run a test/deca cycle do this:

    Buy Nioxin Shampoo
    Buy Nizoral Shampoo
    Take 1mg saw palmetto ed(or beta something, containing phytoestro's)
    use fina or dutra if you think you need it, on my test e only cycle my hair got really thing, and it didn't recede nor did i get a bald spot, but my hairline on my left side of my head is visible..wtf ? haha, no one in my family, mom or dads side is bald, in fact there like 70 with a full head of hair. maybe my dad is not my dad;[ im a bastard
    I talk with a dermatologist !

    He said, shampoing like Nioxin or Nizoral is a scam if you buy it to help you with hair loss.

    The only treatment that work is rogaine and propecia.

    Rogaine give me headeach, and propecia make me lose libido and hard on.

    My father is almost bald, so I don't want to take Testo, It's already gone too far.

    But, I had some good result on Deca, and I want it back.

    A lot of people told me not to take propecia with deca, I don't know why.

    Dustateride is like propecia, it work the same ways, i asked the phartmacist.

    as far as 1mg saw palmetto , i really don't know what it is.

    It suck to lose hair, speacially at 28. Still young.

    It almost like you guy are tellingme, it's eitheir shape or hair.

    The shape might go away if I stop training, but the hair will never grow back.

    I have a bad genetic for my hair, so I don't know what to do. Deca alone is not suppose to do a lot of damage on the hair.

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    DECA , PRIMO,ANAVAR --if your worried about hair

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    Buy a ****in' Rug

    Join the Hairclub for men.

    If your mommy and daddy have siblings with hairloss issues... yours is coming out too sport. It is totally genetic, like everything else with your body.

    And your information about myths of hairloss...is a ****ing advertisement.

    You run the risk of losing some hair when you take anabolic steroids .
    If you want to look like Wayne Newton... stick to creatine and NO2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Boy
    Join the Hairclub for men.

    If your mommy and daddy have siblings with hairloss issues... yours is coming out too sport. It is totally genetic, like everything else with your body.

    And your information about myths of hairloss...is a ****ing advertisement.

    You run the risk of losing some hair when you take anabolic steroids .
    If you want to look like Wayne Newton... stick to creatine and NO2.
    Well take a lok at Arnold Schwarzenegger and sylvester stallone, both used a lot of tests, and they never loss hair.

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