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    Thumbs up The 4x4 Cycle!

    Okay...first of all, I would like to state the fact That I Do Know opinions are like assholes....everyone has one
    With that said, I also know... one would be stupid if he did not seek out the experience/knowledge of "others". And from what I have read in the topics/threads....there are some that do definitely qualify as "others" and others that definitely DO NOT qualify (scary!)

    So here goes out a call for all the "others" in da house....lay your righteous experience/knowledge on me!!!!! Can I get Amen brothers!!!

    cough……cough……ummmmm

    Anyways..... I would like the opinion from the "others" (great movie) on Short Cycles.

    By "short cycles", I mean 8 weeks or less. Personally, I believe, a 4 weeker give the best gains to sides ratio.
    The reason I ask is, I am planning on doing a 4 week on and 4 week off cycle, for a year. I think I shall call it The 4x4 Cycle!

    1st Cyle/8wks: Tren/50mg and Test-P/ 75mg ED for 4wks
    LR3 IGF-1/100mcgs and MGH/100mcgs 5on/2off for 4wks


    2nd Cyle/8wks: Tren/50mg and Dbol/30mg ED for 4wks
    LR3 IGF-1/100mcgs and MGH/100mcgs 5on/2off for 4wks


    3rd Cyle/8wks: Tren/75mg and Dbol/50mg ED for 4wks
    LR3 IGF-1/100mcgs and MGH/100mcgs 5on/2off for 4wks


    4th Cyle/8wks: Tren/75mg and Test-P/ 100mg ED for 4wks on/4wks off
    LR3 IGF-1/100mcgs and MGH/100mcgs 5on/2off for 4wks


    Plus, of course, all the sides (Doing 80mg Nolva on day 1 (2 days after last Tren ) in divided doses followed by 40mg/day for a week and then 20mg/day for 3 more weeks. I am thinking of using HCG , after the second cycle to prevent any testicular shrinkage that may occur.

    I would love to hear your opinions and suggestions.

    Thanks a Bunch,
    The Iron Bull
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    That sounds awesome man, hope it goes great for you? I like the low dosages as you will still see smaller results with obviously less sides. But even though the results may be smaller since your doing basically 4 cycles in a row I think it will play out nicely. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon4954
    That sounds awesome man, hope it goes great for you? I like the low dosages as you will still see smaller results with obviously less sides. But even though the results may be smaller since your doing basically 4 cycles in a row I think it will play out nicely. JMO

    That was my thinking!

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    I my self like long cycle. But that dont mean shit.

    I like the way you have it 4 on 4 off. It works well with the igf. The only thing is i think i would start with the d-bol the first 4 weeks. Then the next 4 prop and just keep changing it back and forth. you can also throw in some winny or t-bol also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    I my self like long cycle. But that dont mean shit.

    I like the way you have it 4 on 4 off. It works well with the igf. The only thing is i think i would start with the d-bol the first 4 weeks. Then the next 4 prop and just keep changing it back and forth. you can also throw in some winny or t-bol also.
    Why Dbol the 1st 4 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIronBull
    Why Dbol the 1st 4 weeks?
    i think it might blow you up a little more then the prop.

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    Interesting cycle, although I see no point for nolva @ 80mg. Considering you're getting most of the results from 10mg.

    Goodluck, and let us know how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipp
    Interesting cycle, although I see no point for nolva @ 80mg. Considering you're getting most of the results from 10mg.

    Goodluck, and let us know how it goes.

    Why do you say that? Everything I have read so far points to high mg at 1st and then lowering as weeks progressed

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