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    Help , test, tren , deca cycle

    HI , I need some imput on my next cycle , 26 years, 5'11 ,220 , 12% body fat.
    This will be my 4th cycle.
    What do you guys think , how should I run it and how much???
    Thanks

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    How would you like to run it? What was your last cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    How would you like to run it? What was your last cycle?

    I don't think I am prone to many side effects , so my cycles were little high on dosages , example:last cycle

    test: 1250mg a week-12 weeks
    eq: 800mg a week-12 weeks

    Not a single mg of nolva or any anti-estrogen.Maybe stupid!!!

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    I wouldnt run both or a combination of the 2 (Nandroloen and trenbolone ) very high.

    I want to run this:

    200mg npp eod
    100mg tren eod
    100mg test eod
    200mg masteron prop eod

    if you run nandrolone and trenbolone I would suggest running cabergoline as well as letro or arimidex .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa
    I don't think I am prone to many side effects , so my cycles were little high on dosages , example:last cycle

    test: 1250mg a week-12 weeks
    eq: 800mg a week-12 weeks

    Not a single mg of nolva or any anti-estrogen.Maybe stupid!!!
    That is fine. Im not pron to gyno ether.

    So what did you have in mind for this cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    That is fine. Im not pron to gyno ether.

    So what did you have in mind for this cycle.
    I was thinking something like this:I am no sure about tren dosage!!!!

    1000mg test
    300-400 tren
    600 deca
    What do you think

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    lower the test and up the deca or tren IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa
    I was thinking something like this:I am no sure about tren dosage!!!!

    1000mg test
    300-400 tren
    600 deca
    What do you think

    i would just up the tren to 500mg week. There you go now you have your dose. What time frame are you going to run it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    i would just up the tren to 500mg week. There you go now you have your dose. What time frame are you going to run it.
    about 12 weeks.
    I have a question about d-bol. Everybody takes it to kick start the cycle right?
    So the d-bol is just becouse they can't wait right?
    If I end up kick starting the cycle for 4 weeks with d-bol , how much should I take?

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    Liek this

    60mg day
    1000mg test weeks 1-12
    500mg tren -a weeks 5-12
    600 deca weeks 1-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Liek this

    60mg day
    1000mg test weeks 1-12
    500mg tren -a weeks 5-12
    600 deca weeks 1-10
    That would be a killer cycle...personally, I will not run tren and deca in the same cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Liek this

    60mg day
    1000mg test weeks 1-12
    500mg tren -a weeks 5-12
    600 deca weeks 1-10
    Is the tren as strong as they say? I just want to be on the safe side.
    What's you experience with tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrpskn
    That would be a killer cycle...personally, I will not run tren and deca in the same cycle.

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa
    Why?

    Both are 19nors that incerase progesterone/prolactin which can cause/worse gyno in the presence of estrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa
    Why?
    Two 19-nor AAS's in one stack?...I don't think so.
    If I did run such a cycle I would definitely have some anti-progestin ancillaries on hand...as well as something to combat prolactin.

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    Like I said, cabergoline and letro or arimidex .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Like I said, cabergoline and letro or arimidex .
    Fuk , you avatar is freaking me out!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa
    Fuk , you avatar is freaking me out!!!

    Objective accomplished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullsmasher
    Objective accomplished.
    Are those side from deca and tren together

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    Would masteron be a better choice than deca in my cycle?

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    No but both together would be.

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    Well maybe not, tren is alrady very androgenic so......

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    I did npp and tren at the same time with no problems. Just take your b-6 and letro and you should be fin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    Liek this

    60mg day
    1000mg test weeks 1-12
    500mg tren -a weeks 5-12
    600 deca weeks 1-10
    - Im assuming the 60mg/day is dbol ...

    How about swapping it for anadrol @ 100mgs ED ?

    Could Test E, Tren A, Deca and Anadrol be stacked together and still be able to stay lean throughout the cycle with no bloat by using Arimidex ... Kind of like a lean mass builder ?

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    bump

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    doesn't letro have anti-prolactin effects? I read this somewhere, it prevents progest or something ? couldnt letro just be run by itself ?

    in 2 weeks i am starting
    prop/tren (2-6) eq/deca cycle with

    letro ed, saw palmetto, spiro, dutra, nioxin

    everyone tells me to throw out the eq or deca/ but im going to see how the two test derived + two nors combine, even thinking of some anavar or winstrol @ then end. wish me luck

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    Good Luck Mate... Im just wondering if anyone has used it but with Anadrol the first 4 weeks to front load and if so what were the results like... anyone ???

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