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07-13-2002, 02:43 AM #1Associate Member
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Possible first cycle... Advice please.
Ok looking to possibly start a first cycle in the winter. Want some size but not put on alot of BF and water.
Thinking of possibly this...
weeks 1 - 10 EQ 400mg/week
weeks 1 - 10 Sust, or enethate 500mg/week
weeks 1 - 3 test prop 75mg EOD
Weeks 7 - 12 winny tabs 50mg ED
Clomid after winny
Well comments greatly appreciated and what would you guys say go for Sust or Enethate or something else??
Thanks in advance
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07-13-2002, 03:09 AM #2
The cycle looks pretty good although you haven't given us much information about yourself. Twenty is a little young for your first cycle and I don't have any stats or lifting experience on you. I would like to see you frontload the test instead of jump starting with the prop and then run the prop 75mg a day weeks 9-12. You are going to want to have an anti-e on hand just in case. I would go with enanthate if you want to use a long acting ester.
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07-13-2002, 10:02 AM #3Associate Member
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Ok well ive been active in sports such as hockey all my life. Ive lifted off and on for years but seriously bodybuilded for a year and a half. I have a better base then most people i see jumping into a cycle, being 230 and at 10 or 11% BF at 6'2" and my lifts are all up there. Bench max 330+ Squat 405 for 6, Deadlift 450+ for 6. By the time ill start the cycle ill almost be 21. My training and diet are totally spot on. Most people in my gym allready look at me and my partner and think we're either nuts or juiceing the way we train. People always say to that we definatley train harder then anyone else in our gym by far.
Well thats a little info.
And can you layout the way you think i should run my entire cycle for me??Last edited by canadian_mofo; 07-13-2002 at 10:05 AM.
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07-13-2002, 11:33 AM #4Associate Member
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Well anyone have some imput??
Last edited by canadian_mofo; 07-13-2002 at 01:25 PM.
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07-13-2002, 02:46 PM #5
it looks good to me
i like ricksons idea about running the prop with the winny at the end
i personally would use dbol in the beginning wk 1-4 @35-50 mg ed
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07-13-2002, 07:14 PM #6Associate Member
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Dunno if i wanna use Dbol because of the bloating and water retention that comes with it. Thats why i was going to kick start my cycle with prop instead.
Anymore oppinions?
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07-13-2002, 07:26 PM #7
I would bump the sust to 2000mg a week for 10 weeks and bump the eq to 1000mg a week. Just kidding. Cycle looks good. Have fun and get huge.
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07-13-2002, 07:35 PM #8
Run the prop the first 4 weeks. Otherwise it looks good
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07-13-2002, 07:41 PM #9Associate Member
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Ok 4 weeks sounds good then the other tests should be in full effect. Got one more question though should i run EQ weeks 1 -9 and then the enethate 1 week beyond that so that my clomid starts 3 weeks after EQ and right after my winny or leave it as is??
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07-13-2002, 07:44 PM #10
I'd leave it as is, keep it simple
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