**Who bridges with compounds APART from Testosterone?**

[Swifto]

I want feedback on the compounds user's have bridged with, NOT Testosterone (any form).


Dbol 10mg/ED in the AM? How was it?

IGF-1?

AI's? (I know Vitor has used Letro).

HGH?

Low dose, Var, Primo, Proviron , Tbol, Winstrol , EQ?

[ianchov]

Interesting for me also...


Particularly the 10mg dosage

[Swifto]

I think we will begin to see more people bridging with other compounds than Testosterone and AI's IMHO.

[GHO5T]

ive always been interested on bridging between cycles, but i dont know if its healthy or not, can anyone shed some light on this topic

[Random]

Although i dont have much experience on the topic either i think it depends on your goals, competitive bodybuilders are most likely to bridge in an effort to continously make pregressive gains in size and condition....not sure what the long term effects are other than HRT...

[Swifto]

ive always been interested on bridging between cycles, but i dont know if its healthy or not, can anyone shed some light on this topic

All AS are suppressive to some degree, even at low doses. So I doubt it would be possible to recover 100% and get levels of T to baseline or previous levels, whilst also running other suppressive compounds. I guess you could get them near baseline, but not full recovery.

But then. Staying suppressed rather than "shutdown" is better IMO. Recovery should, in theory, be easier, as hormone output already exists as your only suppressed, not "shutdown". This is what really intrests me as gains are hard to attain for me.

[Hard Head]

Swifto,
Would you be thinking about a straight bridge (no recovery) or a brigde that included HCG and some sort of therapy to help restore natty function as well??

I have heard things about Dbol , Halo, Var...

[Swifto]

Swifto,
Would you be thinking about a straight bridge (no recovery) or a brigde that included HCG and some sort of therapy to help restore natty function as well??

I have heard things about Dbol, Halo, Var...

I'll be running HCG next cycle anyhow. At 125-500ius 2-3 times weekly. depending on labido and testicular size. Adjusting the dose accordingly. This, I hope will maintain testicular size and function.

For the bridge, I'm thinking of low dose Primo and Proviron at a high dose, for labido and to further reduce SHBG, whilst also reducing estrogen.

BW is the key. I want to see if my pituitary will still function AFTER using Testosterone , but whilst running Primo at a low dose...An experiment.

If it does, recovery could be easier, as I'm not "shutdown". I dont like the thought of being "shutdown" for longer than 10 weeks. Though I have been on 2 14 week cycles and recovered fine.

There is also the idea of using Primo at around 200-400mg/wk and a powerful AI, like Letro, to reduce estrogen so much, the body tries to restore it by increasing T. Vitor has claimed to do this with BW bridging between cycles. Very intresting as his T was fairly high.

[Hard Head]

I don't care for the 'run your HCG throughout' school of thinking. You need a break of at least 4 weeks between HCG runs of 3 to 6 weeks. If it were me, I might think about hitting the HCG at week 6 and 7 for 500 iu ed and then again at week 12+ (4 days after my last long ester shot) for 2 to 3 weeks for 500 iu ed with nolvadex . You would in theory run your bridging compound (possibly 10-30 mg dbol ed or 10 mg halo 2 days on and 1 day off) alongside this protocol as you should have recovered full size by week 3 of the HCG and full function by week 5 or 6. I believe that Aromasin would be the AI of choice with the nolva.

I had not considered primo, what is your thinking there?

I am not giving advice but I am pontificating out loud.

[Swifto]

I don't care for the 'run your HCG throughout' school of thinking. You need a break of at least 4 weeks between HCG runs of 3 to 6 weeks. If it were me, I might think about hitting the HCG at week 6 and 7 for 500 iu ed and then again at week 12+ (4 days after my last long ester shot) for 2 to 3 weeks for 500 iu ed with nolvadex . You would in theory run your bridging compound (possibly 10-30 mg dbol ed or 10 mg halo 2 days on and 1 day off) alongside this protocol as you should have recovered full size by week 3 of the HCG and full function by week 5 or 6. I believe that Aromasin would be the AI of choice with the nolva.

I had not considered primo, what is your thinking there?

I am not giving advice but I am pontificating out loud.

Ok.

Why the "break of at least 4 weeks between HCG runs of 3 to 6 weeks". Leydigg Cell desensitisation?

I like the sound of Primo as I its on of the more milder compounds to the HPTA and in general as I'm prone to acne. It seems to fit nicely. I'm using it next cycle, regardless and it may be in the bridge it may not. My next cycle is an experiment.

I may not even do the bridge yet. I'll be getting BW done 4-5 weeks after using Test Prop, when using Primo to see if my pituitary has begun to function again first.

[BajanBastard]

Bridging is just another term for "I'm not coming off gear".

[Hard Head]

Bridging is just another term for "I'm not coming off gear".

Agreed.

[ToTheBuckeT21]

I thought u were talking time between last shot and pct.. but if ur talking between cycles then yea its not a bridge your just not coming off gear.. but i'd prob just do Var if that was the case

[Hard Head]

Ok.

Why the "break of at least 4 weeks between HCG runs of 3 to 6 weeks". Leydigg Cell desensitisation?

Right, you don't want to get stuck on HRT

I like the sound of Primo as I its on of the more milder compounds to the HPTA and in general as I'm prone to acne. It seems to fit nicely. I'm using it next cycle, regardless and it may be in the bridge it may not. My next cycle is an experiment.

Here is a quote from Hooker.

"When men were given a 30-45mg dose of the oral version of Primo, they experienced a 15-65% decrease in gonadotropin levels (9). Remember, I said 100mgs is a good dose for gains…well, you’ll also reduce your gonadotropin levels considerably. I have personally never understood why people recommend either oral or injectable Primobolan as a possible bridging compound for this reason….maybe at a too-low-to-do-anything dose of 10mgs it could be used as a bridge. And forget about using injectable Primo to bridge…"

[BIG TEXAN]

Bridging is just another term for "I'm not coming off gear".

Yep.... you're either on something...or not.

[IBdmfkr]

PM me Swifto and I'll talk more bout this very sensitive subject..
Too many amateurs on this site to understand the concept of bridging, wouldn't want one of them to misinterpret my post and hurt themselves.

If you're not a competitor I'd not recommend doing so, you will more than likely ruin your chances of recovering your natural levels over a period of time.

[ianchov]

I**mfkr,

please post here as well..

Everyone is reasonable enough to interpret facts as he understand them...

We are here to learn, don`t we?

[perfectbeast2001]

currently running GH, slin 5 weeks on/off and IGF 5 weeks on/off between cycles. No loss of strength thus far and still making gains through PCT.

[rafael]

kynoselen might be such a compound of intrest due to the fact it helps fight catabolism.

[Ejuicer]

I run gh non stop all year now. I usually bridge with low dose test however I have used things like eq, primo tabs, var, t-bol, d-bol, masteron or other mild items. When I do occasionally go completely off of gear I use things like clen , lr3 and slin as well.
I pretty much haven't been completely off of any bodybuilding compound in years now.

[IBdmfkr]

I**mfkr,

please post here as well..

Everyone is reasonable enough to interpret facts as he understand them...

We are here to learn, don`t we?

I disagree, there are lots of 18-20yr old on this site that do not think of long-term consiquences and gear abuse.. if you'd like more info on bridging PM me.

I'd rather not be responsible for anyone being on HRT or having psychological problems in their early twenties..

Notice how I don't give anabolic advice much anymore

Marcus300 was a smart guy for doing the same and not publically posting dosages in his short-cycle thread, I'll show the same integrity and not post this info as well.

[marcus300]

I disagree, there are lots of 18-20yr old on this site that do not think of long-term consiquences and gear abuse.. if you'd like more info on bridging PM me.

I'd rather not be responsible for anyone being on HRT or having psychological problems in their early twenties..

Notice how I don't give anabolic advice much anymore

Marcus300 was a smart guy for doing the same and not publically posting dosages in his short-cycle thread, I'll show the same integrity and not post this info as well.

I agree totally, bridging is something you think very hard about, it all depends what you want out of BB and were you are heading with your own personal goals,

My advice on bridging is dont do it unless your thinking of competing, many problems occur and knowing your own body is a must, i dont think the younger BB's who have little experience shouldn't even consider it. you have to know what the reactions can be with bridging because with any action there is always reaction and sometimes they are not good.

[ianchov]

Yea..maybe you guys are right..

I**mfkr you have PM

[BIG TEXAN]

If you're not a competitor I'd not recommend doing so, you will more than likely ruin your chances of recovering your natural levels over a period of time.

I agree...majority of folks on here are recreational AAS users, that's why I just keep it simple and recommend no bridging...

[Ufa]

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