My 1st deca cycle any insite???

[ApolloCreed]

whats sup people... now i'm 25yr 5'9'' an 203 pounds an probably about 13% body fat. i want to go on a cutting cycle for about 12 weeks and i want to use deca 200mg i've used it before but never for a cycle i would like to use at least 2 other supplements to compliment it and any insite and or cycles would be very helpful. thank all

[t-gunz]

200mg is very low IMO... 300/400mg/w with some test.. more test than deca needs to be ran..
have you got a cycle planned out roughly at all???
what do you mean you've used it before but never for a cycle???
also what are the comounds you want to use?

[SMAN12b]

Welcome to AR

It would help if you could give us your complete stats. Answer ALL the green questions below and we can help you better

Decca alone is not recommended at all and certainly NOT recommended for cutting cycles

[guest589745]

You can "cut" with "Deca " but you will retain more water than from the phenylpropionate ester for example. Thats the only "problem" with the decanoate ester of nandrolone (Or any slower ester for that matter), more water retention. Which can actually have benefits.

Deca alone isn't a good idea though.

[ApolloCreed]

IF ASKING FOR CYCLE ADVICE PLEASE PROVIDE:
AGE:25 HEIGHT:5'9'' WEIGHT 203 BF% 13%, Diet lots of fish chicken eggs soy, TRAINING: high school football and track, on and off weight training since, PREVIOUS CYCLES tried 2 decas and 2 sus 250 nothing more. GOALS i want to drop about 15 pounds and ripp with lean mass not really interested in getting super bulky. PCT KNOWLEDGE i need help in this area i hope that helps

[ApolloCreed]

i want to use deca and sus 250 but i would like to know if there is any thing better on a better combo i'm new to the juice game an i need some coachin thank all

[SMAN12b]

i want to use deca and sus 250 but i would like to know if there is any thing better on a better combo i'm new to the juice game an i need some coachin thank all

Well as Skull stated, you can cut on just about any compound including Deca , your diet will determine how much you lose.

For your goals, I might suggest a Test/winny cycle like:

1-10 Sust at 500mgs/week
7-12 Winny at 50-100mgs ED

Check out the PCT forum for ideas and education about that. You will need to learn about it as opposed to us just telling you what to take.

[ApolloCreed]

I've read and read an i think i got a nice cycle for my needs what do u guys think of it
dbol 60mg ed/week 1-6
deca 200mg ew/week 1-12
pct with clomid starting week 13
let me know what yall think

[SMAN12b]

I've read and read an i think i got a nice cycle for my needs what do u guys think of it
dbol 60mg ed/week 1-6
deca 200mg ew/week 1-12
pct with clomid starting week 13
let me know what yall think

Now your just joking with us right???? that cycle SUCKS !!

[evil pepsi]

not needed watsoever.................................

[ApolloCreed]

D-Bol-50mg p/d wk 1-5
Deca -Durabolin -400mg p/w wk 1-12
sus-250- 250mg p/w wk 5-12
pct clomid week 13-15
road to rippness?? left or right?

[SMAN12b]

Sign reads "DEAD END"

still too much crap for your first cycle, and only 3 weeks of PCT while using a compound that shuts you down HARD?????

[ApolloCreed]

Well as Skull stated, you can cut on just about any compound including Deca , your diet will determine how much you lose.

For your goals, I might suggest a Test/winny cycle like:

1-10 Sust at 500mgs/week
7-12 Winny at 50-100mgs ED

Check out the PCT forum for ideas and education about that. You will need to learn about it as opposed to us just telling you what to take.

I think i'm gonna take your advise homie...SMAN12B this looks ez on the system 4 the 1st cycle. only one ? would it be coo to start this with dbol for a kick start it of do i even need it? thanks for your help gettin me on the right track

[SMAN12b]

I think i'm gonna take your advise homie...SMAN12B this looks ez on the system 4 the 1st cycle. only one ? would it be coo to start this with dbol for a kick start it of do i even need it? thanks for your help gettin me on the right track

The problem with doing a kickstart with this cycle is that would mean doing at least 10 weeks of Harsh orals in your first cycle. I would NOT recommend it. Since you are using Sust, if you shoot it EOD then you will get quicker results due to the shorter prop ester. Personally, for the first cycle, and for the "rippness" you say you want I would stick with just the test/winny

Only other options may be that you could kickstart with 30mgs-40mgs of dbol for the first 4 weeks IF you can get Injectable winny for the end instead of oral

[FearlessFighter]

Test and Oxandrolone might be beneficial if your goal is to lose BF% since it has been said in research that one property of Oxandrolone was a decrease of BF. Stanozolol on the other hand has no such properties, it will only add strength and harden you up and if lucky, you might put on a tiny amount of muscle.

[SMAN12b]

Test and Oxandrolone might be beneficial if your goal is to lose BF% since it has been said in research that one property of Oxandrolone was a decrease of BF. Stanozolol on the other hand has no such properties, it will only add strength and harden you up and if lucky, you might put on a tiny amount of muscle.

Well, the point in using the winny at the end is just that, to harden up gains and remove water to give the more ripped look. Drink 1-2 gallons of water a day to help with joints and water removal and will aid in vascularity if his bodyfat is low enough

[ApolloCreed]

tren would also be good to use with the winny but i was reading that it lowers endurance have known anyone to use it an get good gains?

[ApolloCreed]

nice fro

[FearlessFighter]

Well, the point in using the winny at the end is just that, to harden up gains and remove water to give the more ripped look. Drink 1-2 gallons of water a day to help with joints and water removal and will aid in vascularity if his bodyfat is low enough

I neglected to read the thread starters post throughly. At 13% it isn't such a daft idea to use Winstrol - should be relatively easy to drop to a single digit number.

[Mista Massive]

check out the PCT forum.

Tren is definatley not for beginners IMO. i haven't used it but ppl reccomend that you get quite a few cycles under your belt before u start tren

[porkym1376]

better jerk it while u can! deca has always been ;limp city for lots of guys i know.

[Hunter]

if using deca I would add hrt amount of test to keep the noodle, working.

[andros00919]

If you go with DECA , try this cycle:

13 weeks cycle:
week 1-13 DECA 400-600mg weekly (strenght & mass)
week 4-13 Trenbolone enant. 150mg weekly (strenght, mass & cutting)
week 2-13 Proviron 50mg daily (keep estrogen low)
week 6-13 Winstrol tabs 50mg (cutting & strenght)


This cycle give you a big lean mass, most important Eat, Eat, Eat CLEAN!!

Good Luck!

[Hunter]

If you go with DECA , try this cycle:

13 weeks cycle:
week 1-13 DECA 400-600mg weekly (strenght & mass)
week 4-13 Trenbolone enant. 150mg weekly (strenght, mass & cutting)
week 2-13 Proviron 50mg daily (keep estrogen low)
week 6-13 Winstrol tabs 50mg (cutting & strenght)


This cycle give you a big lean mass, most important Eat, Eat, Eat CLEAN!!

Good Luck!

Tren might overshadow alot of the deca dont you think? Also isn't running two 19 nors going to make recovery difficult?

[crizzle]

Does anyone know about stacking Deca and Winny? Thoughts?

[dhriscerr]

Good cycle IMO since you've already done 2 sust and 2 deca before your use to sticking yourself so run

1-8 Test Prop 75mg ed
2,4-8 Injectable Winny 75mg ed

No kickstart or oral needed with Prop. Only 2 compounds, not to many, and no tren . Save the bomb for a bigger battle. You could run L-dex or Letro at .25-.5mg ed to help keep you looking drier, no bloating, not that I think either of those 2 compounds will bloat you. Masteron isn't a bad thing to look into either but id stick with simple at first, you know the acronym KISS keep it simple stupid

[helium3]

Does anyone know about stacking Deca and Winny? Thoughts?

deca and winny are an excellent choice for a lean mass cycle,you may want to add some test/hrt dose if you suffer from labido issues.but again they are a great cycle.

deca is often thought of as being a good compound to add to a bulker which it is but not for the reasons people think,deca doesnt cause much bloat at all very little of the compound converts to estrogen.people draw this conclusion when they run it with such things as test which aromatises readily to estrogen.

[chest6]

guys this thread is 2 months old.

[helium3]

damn it.