ok who has had gains reduced by anti-e

[wes cst rydr]

i keep seeing people say anti e's hinder gains.how many of you have expierenced that and how much?enough to make a big diference?

[wes cst rydr]

bump! come on guys can we learn here give it up!

[G-1000]

Oh Oh I have I have

[GHO5T]

Ive never had an anti e hinder my gains. The only thing that hinders my gains is if my diet and training were to be off (which rarely happens )

[MAXIMA5]

isnt it true that running an anti-e off cycle can increase free test? How then, can it hinder on-cycle gains if it has the potential to cause test-like gains off-cycle?

Also, how exactly would you gauge a loss of gains while on cycle? You would have no way of knowing what your gains would have been if you didnt run the AI or if you lowered the dose.

[cfiler]

I haven't run a cycle without some sort of anti-e, so I can't say.

[GHO5T]

isnt it true that running an anti-e off cycle can increase free test? How then, can it hinder on-cycle gains if it has the potential to cause test-like gains off-cycle?

Also, how exactly would you gauge a loss of gains while on cycle? You would have no way of knowing what your gains would have been if you didnt run the AI or if you lowered the dose.

Since i keep a log of my cycles, such stats as starting weight, measurements, diet, aas being used, pct compounds being used, ending weight, etc...

Im looking at it from my previous cycle when an Anti e wasnt incorporated into the cycle, and while bulking i gained roughly 23 lbs at the end just from the cycle.

When i look at a bulker when infact i incorporated and anti e (b/c of different compounds i was running) i gained roughly 24 lbs at the end from the cycle.

So i can conclude that anti e's dont hinder my gains personally from that.

[nephilim666]

theyl help keep water weight off , so if ur talkin 3-5 lbs water reten then i guess thats hindering " gains " ?

[wes cst rydr]

Since i keep a log of my cycles, such stats as starting weight, measurements, diet, aas being used, pct compounds being used, ending weight, etc...

Im looking at it from my previous cycle when an Anti e wasnt incorporated into the cycle, and while bulking i gained roughly 23 lbs at the end just from the cycle.

When i look at a bulker when infact i incorporated and anti e (b/c of different compounds i was running) i gained roughly 24 lbs at the end from the cycle.

So i can conclude that anti e's dont hinder my gains personally from that.

thats some good input from monitoring it!

[Benches505]

theyl help keep water weight off , so if ur talkin 3-5 lbs water reten then i guess thats hindering " gains " ?

Bingo and they will also not give the full strength increase that comes along with some water retention.

I only want what I can keep after the cycle anyway so it works for me to use them.

[wes cst rydr]

benches i love the avitar, maybe its the test kickn in!

[wes cst rydr]

bumpn it up again. want to get some kind of a poll for some good percentages. so far it seems no loss from antis is ahead.