Started PROP/TREN A/VAR

**Swifto** · 01-18-2007, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

well, it's not written anywhere that prop HAS to be injected every day, i mean, yeah, more stable blood levels yada yada yada, but i promise you, the real world differences here are neglible...same for trenA

btw, before you go there, ive done both ways, 13 years worth, and i'm telling you, NEGLIBLE. eod shots are fine...

Individuals differ, thats obvious. I've never used Tren , but when I do run Tren A, I'll be injecting it ED to keep sides as low as possible. User's, on here and other boards report sides from Tren, such as acne are lower when injected ED. ED is nearer to optimal than EOD is. Simple. Blood plasma concentrations are going to be more stable ED than EOD. Do we agree?

There is no right/wrong way here. All we have is the active-life of Tren, or more importantly the Acetate ester (2-3 days). Anything more than that and were really encouraging sides, like acne.

Inject it how you will. But more frequently is more optimal.

**Alpha-Male** · 01-18-2007, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

eh, maybe with the tren...

yeah, already agreed that SIDES might be better managed with eod shots...

and also agreed that yes, technically you'd have more stable plasma levels, but in the absence of any posted numbers, i'm saying that the results in GAINS would be negligible...and that's as simple as it gets...

**fLgAtOr** · 01-18-2007, 03:55 PM

I'm just embarassed that there had to be 25 posts before the most harmful this was mentioned...Not rotating sites.

**Alpha-Male** · 01-18-2007, 04:05 PM

that wasn't even an issue though bro...all he mentioned was shooting 3ccs in at once, which there's nothing wrong with. rotating sites is kinda juice101, no?

**Taurus** · 01-18-2007, 04:55 PM

ok, listen. i've been in this forum for over 3 years, and done alot of reading. i know it is optimal to take prop and tren A every day to minimize SIDES. i have read people takin it evry other day and gettin the same results as ed. i didnt go into this cycle cold turkey. i did my research before sticking myself with foreign objects.

i took prop my last cycle eod. i thought if i get sides i'll switch to ed. but i had virtually no sides. no acne, no hairloss, no high bp, nothng.... and i got good strength and weight gains. now, i'm applying the same philosophy to this cycle. i know my body and how it reacts. i started eod, like i've said a thousand times, if i cant handle it, i'll switch to ed.

as for rotating sites, i can tell if there is scar tissue or what not. i'm not blind. i've been injecting for a while now and have never had any problems. u guys re acting as tho i've never done this before. i've been givng valid reasons as to why i'm doing what i'm doing... people seem to overlook the most important message on this board "what works for one, doesnt necessarily work for the other". i know what works for me becuase i have tried it, and which is why i'm doing it the way i am doing it.

**Alpha-Male** · 01-18-2007, 04:58 PM

everything u said, is basically everything i've been saying...hopefully you weren't referencing me or any advice i've given, cuz my only issues have been with some other responses...you are EXACTLY right, this is one of those things that will be different for different people, period. good luck with your cycle bro, and keep up with the research...

**fLgAtOr** · 01-18-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

that wasn't even an issue though bro...all he mentioned was shooting 3ccs in at once, which there's nothing wrong with. rotating sites is kinda juice101, no?

But it SHOULD of been the issue...Not the ED vs EOD argument. Yes, its four days apart, but its alot of oil in one spot to shoot another 3mls four days later.

This was my point. And as far as I know, he started incorporating other sites.

Taurus,
Rotating sites is not a "what works for you..." argument. And scar tissue is not the most serious thing...Abcesses are. 3mls is alot of oil in one site to be sticking again in a few days...Add another two, and you'll be straight (which I think you said you were encorporating pecs now).

Just lookin out dude.

**Taurus** · 01-18-2007, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by fLgAtOr

But it SHOULD of been the issue...Not the ED vs EOD argument. Yes, its four days apart, but its alot of oil in one spot to shoot another 3mls four days later.

This was my point. And as far as I know, he started incorporating other sites.

Taurus,
Rotating sites is not a "what works for you..." argument. And scar tissue is not the most serious thing...Abcesses are. 3mls is alot of oil in one site to be sticking again in a few days...Add another two, and you'll be straight (which I think you said you were encorporating pecs now).

Just lookin out dude.

i hear u bro.

**Taurus** · 01-18-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Alpha-Male

everything u said, is basically everything i've been saying...hopefully you weren't referencing me or any advice i've given, cuz my only issues have been with some other responses...you are EXACTLY right, this is one of those things that will be different for different people, period. good luck with your cycle bro, and keep up with the research...

bro, u have 13 yrs of experience. u've done it both ways. ur advice is muc appreciated. u have been totally supportive. thank you.

**Taurus** · 01-22-2007, 12:44 PM

1st week update:

10 days in. i am finally beginning to feel it. my stregth hasnt gone up much. i am taking maintainance calories. my weight is still at 205, but can already feel the difference in my midsection. i am also feeling more pumped on "off" days. it isnt much, but i am beginning to feel it.

side effects: i had one pimple on my forehead 3 days ago. has cleared up now. i doubt it had anything to do with the tren . everything seems to be fine so far "touch wood".

note: last cycle, i was on prop. i had bad night sweats. this cycle i have had none, even tho i am on tren along with the prop. seems kinda odd. i cant remember how far along i got them off the prop last time. how soon do u guys get em?