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    BUSTINit is offline New Member
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    second cycle sugg.

    for second cycle would u prefer sust 250 or testoviron 250?/ other i deas welcome..

    i am 5' 9 175lbs,,,14% bodyfat
    bench 225
    squat 250
    20 pull ups

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    What was your first cycle?
    How old are you?
    What are your goals?

    this will help

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    BUSTINit is offline New Member
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    im 33
    goals are another 20 lbs at most
    and yes my cardio and diet are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSTINit
    for second cycle would u prefer sust 250 or testoviron 250?/ other i deas welcome..

    i am 5' 9 175lbs,,,14% bodyfat
    bench 225
    squat 250
    20 pull ups
    bench 225 squat 250?

    I mean in bb'ing it doesnt really matter what weight you move, but..cmon. You should be able to get much higher than that before starting steroids

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    you dont think benching 225 is good for weighing 170?

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    Bro,How did you do on your first cycle???..what are your goals for the next one??...did you do pct,blood work??

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    BUSTINit is offline New Member
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    did deca 100 in first cycle...i did it light, probably lighter than i should have.
    yet still my weight went up about 10 pounds,,,my bench wernt up 30 pounds ...and thats true.
    i think i under guessed my squat,,,..i usually do the sled rather than the real way....anyway i do 9 plates 10x.

    my goals are to gain about 20 pounds and loose a couple % of bodyfat.. and yes my diet and cardio are good.

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    So you're saying that your first cycle was deca only?

    That's not a cycle, that was a mistake. Definitely you need test...sust, testoviron ...whatever, just get some test in there.

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    i know deca only wasnt the best choice for a cycle and thats why im getting opinions on my question....testoviron 250 or sust 250.....that bein said, i still dont fully understand why people hate deca so much now...they say it shuts u down (didnt for me by the way)...and its sides are less.

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    Personally, I would recommend sust 250 to any one starting out, I recently did my first cycle and it was sust and d-bol. Obviously since it was my first cycle I have nothing to compare it it to. I saw great results with the sust, I didn't hit 20 pounds, but I truly think if I had been more strict with my diet and layed off the carbs I could have had an even better experience. I'm just trying to recommend sust thats all.

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    Nobody is hating on deca , it's just that it should never be run without some test in there. Deca does shut you down, even after just one shot. I think testoviron 250 is an excellent choice and you can throw some deca in the mix if you want to.

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