deca sides?

[Halfcenturian]

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My wife is as healthy as a horse. The fat bitch.

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After 21 years of marrage, I don't care if the Chicago Bears **** my wife.

If you want to insult someone....Always use your Momma or Your sista.

Now lets get back to discussing anabolic steroids .

[frank12391]

subjective to the user definitely; but as there are literally thousands of members who are and have shared their experiences with this stuff and on all the feed back and biological research + plus personal experiences has given the Gurus. The main concesus is that it's advisable to run some test with deca and all 19 nor's. Some people get away with trt doses of test and others get totally shut down unless they take at least equal amounts, the rest have it coming if they continue to cycle deca on it's own. I made all the mistakes years ago before discovering this forum. With staggered doses of deca and no ancillaries and no P.C.T, my sex drive went through the roof but not for ever. While I never got totally shut down, it had a profound impact on my relationship when my dick was getting limp and I lost interest in sex. Then I ran a long P.C.T once I discovered this site and it still took 6 months before my test went back to normal levels. I ran staggered doses on and off for months without a problem. I believe that the ones who think it's ok to run deca by it's self, it's gonna catch up with you sometime down the track. You simply don't know when and how bad, not to mention the low sperm count for those interested in having a family. If you hate test that much, at least take a wee 100mg a week of a long estered compound like enth or cyp for insurance and run your test for 2 weeks after ceasing the deca.

[oswaldosalcedo]

does it cause more acne than test ? are there any more sides that i should look for..peace

does it cause more acne than test ?

no way.


are there any more sides that i should look for?

water retention.

[beezlebubb666]

only thing i exp while on deca is that i can have sex for hours and hours and not get off unless i try really really really really hard.. sucks really

[mkrulic]

every cycle needs test

[fitguy]

i am still confused wether to run test deca and finasteride to block the more potent dht , i dont think that the dhn will affect my hair more than would the dht thats why i am looking to test if the fina test deca thing is just a myth or run deca only ,the only draw back for me for running deca only is that i might not gain that much on it ...peace

[fitguy]

also say i ran test ,deca and finasteride and had hairloss ,whats the best thing to do then ? drop the test maybe or the finasteride ??just trying to get ready ..

[helium3]

you have to remember that testosterone is a strong androgen and it binds well with the androgen receptor,this will still effect your hair regardless of what protection you use,it will be to a far less extent than dht but will still have an effect.optimally id use test deca and finastide,or dutas.

personally im sticking with deca only cycles from now on as im getting good results without the androgenic sides.deca can be used upto around 400mg a week without it being as androgenic as your own natural test/dht.this for me is the key to keeping my hair and not turning into a walking carpet.


it depends on your goals in the end,deca only cycles like anyother will not get you to the finals of the olympia,but you can have and maintain a decent amount of mass at very little cost.financially and health wise.

up to you good luck.

[fitguy]

you have to remember that testosterone is a strong androgen and it binds well with the androgen receptor,this will still effect your hair regardless of what protection you use,it will be to a far less extent than dht but will still have an effect.optimally id use test deca and finastide,or dutas.

personally im sticking with deca only cycles from now on as im getting good results without the androgenic sides.deca can be used upto around 400mg a week without it being as androgenic as your own natural test/dht.this for me is the key to keeping my hair and not turning into a walking carpet.


it depends on your goals in the end,deca only cycles like anyother will not get you to the finals of the olympia,but you can have and maintain a decent amount of mass at very little cost.financially and health wise.

up to you good luck.

mass wise will the test deca combo have a much more synergistic effect than deca alone ? i have ran test only before but never got any great gains of it ..seems that i am gonna run the deca test finasteride combo and see how it goes ,if i didnt like it deca only will be the way to go ...peace

[EQismypoise]

lol DHT blockers and Test is not DHT based ive never seen any of my friends lose hair except the ones that took masteron

[helium3]

lol DHT blockers and Test is not DHT based ive never seen any of my friends lose hair except the ones that took masteron

@fitguy

anywho,test and deca combo would be optimal.

i was wondering what cycles youve run b4,cos you said you didnt gain much from test.how much and for how long was the test cycle.you should have gained a fair bit with or without ai's.

[fitguy]

@fitguy

anywho,test and deca combo would be optimal.

i was wondering what cycles youve run b4,cos you said you didnt gain much from test.how much and for how long was the test cycle.you should have gained a fair bit with or without ai's.

my cycles are test only cycles at 500 mg for 10 weeks and another one at 750 mg,but i am not seeing the quality of gains i am looking for ,mostly bloat..

[fitguy]

bump

[fitguy]

anyone please ?

[helium3]

my cycles are test only cycles at 500 mg for 10 weeks and another one at 750 mg,but i am not seeing the quality of gains i am looking for ,mostly bloat..

what was the time period between cycles?

i prefer around 3 months total,i get more out of a cycle the longer i leave it.


again test and deca are an excellent cycle example 500mg test enth and 400mg deca for 12 weeks is a good starter,if you are worried about labido or anything then run test longer than deca by about 2 weeks.im now in week 7 of deca only and im still horny as hell,go figure.gains are slowing but not stopped yet.

[fLgAtOr]

lol DHT blockers and Test is not DHT based ive never seen any of my friends lose hair except the ones that took masteron

Test converts to DHT sir.

Finasteride, I believe, blocks the conversion...

Hence why Finasteride (and others) are ineffective against compounds that are already DHT based (Winny and such).

[fitguy]

what was the time period between cycles?

i prefer around 3 months total,i get more out of a cycle the longer i leave it.


again test and deca are an excellent cycle example 500mg test enth and 400mg deca for 12 weeks is a good starter,if you are worried about labido or anything then run test longer than deca by about 2 weeks.im now in week 7 of deca only and im still horny as hell,go figure.gains are slowing but not stopped yet.

what are your gains so far ?

[fitguy]

also say i ran test ,deca and finasteride and had hairloss ,whats the best thing to do then ? drop the test maybe or the finasteride ??just trying to get ready ..

bump please

[helium3]

i would keep both deca and test,and run finastride with it.

better with than without.

im now at the end of week 7,im up 20lbs but bare in mind i was carb depleted b4 i started the cycle which will prolly account for several pounds.but very pleased with teh results,especially for a deca only cycle,havent even run hcg yet.no issues,hardly anysides what so ever except a short fuse.

[reppedout1]

hey halfcenturian you are fn hilarious i get a kick out of sumthin you always say lol

[nilrac]

i would keep both deca and test,and run finastride with it.

better with than without.

im now at the end of week 7,im up 20lbs but bare in mind i was carb depleted b4 i started the cycle which will prolly account for several pounds.but very pleased with teh results,especially for a deca only cycle,havent even run hcg yet.no issues,hardly anysides what so ever except a short fuse.

This is interesting. You said you were running deca only at 400mg per week? No sides except a bad temper? What is your PCT?

[helium3]

actually its 600mg a week.the bloat is minimal which was a supprise,alot less than test,slight back pumps again less than test.quick gains the first 5 weeks which i suspect is prolly nitrogen and some water,slow slow gains after 1lb a week.


i plan on running some hcg towards the end and then go straight to nolva and may use clomid for the extra kick.definitley got a short fuse now,dont like it,road rage is becoming an issue lol.