Anavar as a fat burner?

[Big Papi JR.]

So everyone knows anavar provides rapid strength gains and greatly improves vascularity, but what is the deal with anavar as a fat burner? I've read var surpresses appetite.... I've read that var is an effectively reduces bf.... buuuuuut I have never read why. So does var increase your metabolism or have any properties that may reduce bf? Or would the loss of bf while on var be soley a result of proper diet.

[Manpretty]

no var does not have fat burning properties, you will see a harder look due to loss of water....the only aas that burn fat is tren that i know of

[Hellmaskbanned]

no var does not have fat burning properties, you will see a harder look due to loss of water....the only aas that burn fat is tren that i know of

There's actually some studies done that show var indeed does burn fat.

I even think in the profile section hooker talks about how some who took and some who didnt take var, showed that the ones who took lost significant belly fat which stayed off even after use while the other group who didnt take stayed at the same bf %.

I've been dissing var in the past lol, but now I think I've grown to accept those little buggers.

[Big Papi JR.]

Now here’s some interesting stuff for anyone interested primarily in the fat burning properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid ”. A**ominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no excercise. In addition, weight gained with ‘var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you’ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you’re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar is basically looks to be nearly permanent. Check this chart out:


Absolute change in total fat mass (A) and trunk fat (B) by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry from baseline to study week 12 (solid bars) and from baseline to study week 24 (open bars) in the placebo (n = 12) and the oxandrolone (n = 20) study groups. Values are means ± SE. *Significant decrease from baseline, P < 0.001. Significant difference between study groups for change in fat mass from 0 to 12 wk, P < 0.001. (15)(8)

Keep in mind this is all without any Post-Cycle-Therapy, and without any change in diet or training! And although many of the studies done on oxandrolone use elderly men or young boys as the test subjects, some evidence suggests that many of the effects of oxandrolone are not age dependant (11). If you are following the typical “time on = time off” protocol, this means you can lose a bunch of fat during your time on, then keep most (if not all) of it off until your next cycle. That makes it a great drug for athletes who are drug tested and need to be clean for their season, yet need to keep the fat/weight they lost on their cycle off…I’m thinking about wrestlers and other weight-class athletes. Anavar is also the clear choice for a “spring-cutting” cycle, to look great at the beach…you can use it up until the summer starts, and then keep the fat off during the entire beach season!




that was taken from the AAS profiles on this forum. so wtf? how does this stuff burn fat? what properties does this compound have that burn fat?!?

[MuscleScience]

Now here’s some interesting stuff for anyone interested primarily in the fat burning properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we’d call a “fat-burning steroid ”. A**ominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no excercise. In addition, weight gained with ‘var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you’ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you’re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar is basically looks to be nearly permanent. Check this chart out:


Absolute change in total fat mass (A) and trunk fat (B) by dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry from baseline to study week 12 (solid bars) and from baseline to study week 24 (open bars) in the placebo (n = 12) and the oxandrolone (n = 20) study groups. Values are means ± SE. *Significant decrease from baseline, P < 0.001. Significant difference between study groups for change in fat mass from 0 to 12 wk, P < 0.001. (15)(8)

Keep in mind this is all without any Post-Cycle-Therapy, and without any change in diet or training! And although many of the studies done on oxandrolone use elderly men or young boys as the test subjects, some evidence suggests that many of the effects of oxandrolone are not age dependant (11). If you are following the typical “time on = time off” protocol, this means you can lose a bunch of fat during your time on, then keep most (if not all) of it off until your next cycle. That makes it a great drug for athletes who are drug tested and need to be clean for their season, yet need to keep the fat/weight they lost on their cycle off…I’m thinking about wrestlers and other weight-class athletes. Anavar is also the clear choice for a “spring-cutting” cycle, to look great at the beach…you can use it up until the summer starts, and then keep the fat off during the entire beach season!




that was taken from the AAS profiles on this forum. so wtf? how does this stuff burn fat? what properties does this compound have that burn fat?!?

I have actually read the entire study as above and a few other studies that showed similar results. Oxandrolone like most other steroids works on the alpha and beta receptors in the the body. They are present in fat cells, when exposed to a chemical messenger such as oxandrolone it causes the fat cells to basically release triglycerides for energy utilization

[Big Papi JR.]

I have actually read the entire study as above and a few other studies that showed similar results. Oxandrolone like most other steroids works on the alpha and beta receptors in the the body. They are present in fat cells, when exposed to a chemical messenger such as oxandrolone it causes the fat cells to basically release triglycerides for energy utilization

so would this cause such a significant loss of bf?

[MuscleScience]

so would this cause such a significant loss of bf?

One of the studies I read over showed an average of around 7 lbs of fat loss over the entire body. To some that might not seem like a lot but thats a huge loss. If you figure that there are 3500 calories per lbs of fat thats on average 24500 calories of fat lost or 2722 grams of fat lost. I would say that its a good loss.

[Big Papi JR.]

One of the studies I read over showed an average of around 7 lbs of fat loss over the entire body. To some that might not seem like a lot but thats a huge loss. If you figure that there are 3500 calories per lbs of fat thats on average 24500 calories of fat lost or 2722 grams of fat lost. I would say that its a good loss.

so would you conclude that anavar is an effective fat burner?

[Hellmaskbanned]

so would you conclude that anavar is an effective fat burner?

Yes....Only if your diet/workout routine is directed to cutting to begin with.

It's not going to do shit if there not perfect.

What's your stats?

[MuscleScience]

Based on the studies I would, especially considering that nothing was change in the persons diet and they didnt exercise. By definition all AAS should burn fat, some I would think better than other just based on binding affinity (strenght) to receptors. Some steroids I have been reading about have funny stereo chemistry to them as well. Meaning that they act differently on the binding sites than other steroid molecules. So maybe not all do it as well. Dont know for sure I take biochem this summer in my doctorate program so I will let you know then. LOL

[MorganKane]

Yes....Only if your diet/workout routine is directed to cutting to begin with.

It's not going to do shit if there not perfect.

What's your stats?

I dont understand that.
Either Anavar is a fatburner or its not.

The result will of course vary based on your diet but I dont see how anavar only triggers if you are on a good diet?

[Big Papi JR.]

my stats are

6'1
223lbs
12.5% bf (taken about a month ago, before jumping on tren ... i look much slimmer so i would assume i have dropped bf)

of course the effectiveness of any compound is hinged upon diet, training, etc.. but is the compound in itself a true fat burner

[Halfcenturian]

Yes....Only if your diet/workout routine is directed to cutting to begin with.

It's not going to do shit if there not perfect.

What's your stats?

Papi....Have you ever seen a grown man, naked ?

Papi.... Do you like to watch old GLadiator movies ?

Papi.... Have you ever been in a Turkish prison ?

[Hellmaskbanned]

my stats are

6'1
223lbs
12.5% bf (taken about a month ago, before jumping on tren ... i look much slimmer so i would assume i have dropped bf)

of course the effectiveness of any compound is hinged upon diet, training, etc.. but is the compound in itself a true fat burner

No it's a steroid .

[MuscleScience]

Papi....Have you ever seen a grown man, naked ?

Papi.... Do you like to watch old GLadiator movies ?

Papi.... Have you ever been in a Turkish prison ?

I am serious and dont call me Shirly

[Hellmaskbanned]

Papi....Have you ever seen a grown man, naked ?

Papi.... Do you like to watch old GLadiator movies ?

Papi.... Have you ever been in a Turkish prison ?

I just saw this...Your crazy man, your crazy.....But not as crazy as me.

[Big Papi JR.]

lol what has this thread turned into

[Big Papi JR.]

buuuuuuuuuuump.... for some more info... anyone?

[AleX-69]

From personal expierence i can attest that for me:

Var does burn fat
Var improves my vascularity
Var dramatically improves my muscle hardness
Var is very good at preventing muscle loss

Var does burn MORE fat than tren - for me at least. (compared 80mg ED Var // 400mg Tren/week).

[elitetky]

i am planing to buy some anavar for my cycle slow and steady gains most importantly less toxic less side effect and can keep gains~

[Logan13]

So everyone knows anavar provides rapid strength gains and greatly improves vascularity, but what is the deal with anavar as a fat burner? I've read var surpresses appetite.... I've read that var is an effectively reduces bf.... buuuuuut I have never read why. So does var increase your metabolism or have any properties that may reduce bf? Or would the loss of bf while on var be soley a result of proper diet.

To my knowledge, all DHT based AAS will help increase your bodies utilization of stored fat cells and they bind to the receptors much more efficiently that non-DHT based AAS. This is one of the reason why DHT AAS is almost always incorporated into a bodybuilder's pre-contest cycle.

[Halfcenturian]

Var helps me lose fat either directly or indirectly. The "Steroid Profiles" , for what ever you feel they are worth, do in fact refer,.... reefer? REEFER !!
refer to Var as a "fat burner."

Anavar and Fat Loss
Now here´s some interesting stuff for anyone interested primarily in the fat loss properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we´d call a "fat-burning steroid". A**ominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no exercise. In addition, weight gained with ´var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you´ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you´re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar is basically looks to be nearly permanent. Check this chart out:

[goose]

Although Oxandrolone itself does not break down fat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substance often suppresses the your appetite.

[daytrader]

I've been dissing var in the past lol, but now I think I've grown to accept those little buggers.

Hell yes brotha, i wish the shit didnt cost a damn arm and a leg.. im going into week 3 of var, strength is increasing each workout, and im doing a lean bulk diet, 350 carbs a day.. i have way more veins now than i didn in the summer, when i was natural, cutting at 150carbs a day, thats gotta say somthin right there..i will gradually decrease the cals through the 10week cycle, to get the full effects of the var.. plus no androgenic side-effects yet... also, this is going to sound werid, but my libido, supringsingly is through the roof!, my morning wood last about 1/2 of the day... i was told my libido woudl be suppresed with var only but not the case at all..... only thing im concerned about it my var is from a UG lab that is going through some real shit right now.. losing all credibility .. makes you wonder about what your putting in your body..

[Drummerboy]

DHT stuff reduces fat.... forgot how, but something to do with its action on the andro receptor and reducing estro/progesto er something....

[Big Papi JR.]

bump for some more info

[Logan13]

bump for some more info

I don't know what else there is to say about it. Check out the various online steroid profiles for more info. I did not check your profile, but if your BF is on the high side, I would look more to your diet and exercise than to AAS for fat burning.

[AleX-69]

Although Oxandrolone itself does not break down fat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substance often suppresses the your appetite.

Goose i doubt you've ever used var...

Diet and Cardio is always consistent when i am dieting as is my test dose.
The added AAS are the only variables.
So if i loose more fat on var then on tren Var defenitly burns more fat than tren - at least for me.

Btw appetite suppressant effects should NEVER play a role in a BB's diet..

[MuscleScience]

var burns fat look at the literature.

[Halfcenturian]

Come on you nutty kids, Var is an awesome steroid . It's got it all. With virtually NO SIDES. If you don't / didn't like it. Chances are you got bunk gear.
It's not flashy or sexy like Tren and Halo. But run it for 6-8 weeks @ 60-100mg/ED and see if you don' get stronger and more vascular. I plan on running a low dose with my HRT for the next 3 months. Only concern, cholesterol spikes. Got those covered with statin drugs (Vytorin).

[kkrausz]

Sounds like I need to try Var, I have always used winny instead..