Which Steroid Is Best?

[abcdef81]

I'm taking a poll:

Which steroid is best for getting cut, with MINIMAL hairloss and acne side effects?

Tren (Fina)
Winstrol
Masteron
Equipoise

[jdavis2007]

Winstrol was fine as far as those sides went for me...except my JOINTS HURT LIKE HELL!

I would say possibly masteron or EQ with the right diet would be the best. Any others care to partake in this discussion???

[Random]

This question seems ridiculous as all of those listed can cause acne and hairloss....

[Drummerboy]

true.. all those can do it..

[heavylifter99]

Yeah no doubt, I would say tren , winny... eq is good too,

[abcdef81]

yea thats the thing. see i wanna get cut, so I'm looking at running one of these. BUT, i have very big problems with acne and hairloss. So, I'm trying to figure out which one is best for my situation.

[Random]

Well if thats your situation i would choose EQ, with some moderate dosed test, and some anavar ---most users arent affected greatly from anavar in terms of hairloss...

[MartyMcFly]

Diet..no hair loss.

[abcdef81]

i already ran anavar and it didnt do a thing. so im not taking that one again. i guess it wasnt a strong enuf steroid . it sure wasnt worth the money. im gonna diet and cardio too. i wanna take tren but im thinking its best to try winstrol , masteron , or eq before i experiment with tren.

[abcdef81]

i think i lost all the hair im gonna lose. cuz i lost a shitload of hair when i was on accutane (which i was taking b/c of acne from test/deca ). the last two cycles i ran i havent lost much hair. i really dont care anymore. if i lose anymore hair, i'll just go bruce willis. it's that ****ing acne i cant stand.

[Random]

i already ran anavar and it didnt do a thing

Hmm are you sure it was real?

keep in mind both winstrol and masteron can be harsh on the hair....

CD

[king6]

Tren and winny are very harsh on the ol hairline. Eq is your best bet.

[king6]

Hmm are you sure it was real?

keep in mind both winstrol and masteron can be harsh on the hair....

CD

If I would get the same results from Var as you did that's all I would run.

[Random]

If I would get the same results from Var as you did that's all I would run

LOL! yea man i know mine was real! i love var!

[abcdef81]

i got my var from a supposedly very reliable source, and it looked real. so im guessing it was. i've been working out so long and have gained so much weight from when i first started tho, i dont find anythings really that good. for example, my last cycle i ran test and dbol . and i mean i started popping them dbols like they were vitamins (100 mg+ a day) cuz i wasnt gaining as much as i hoped for. i only got to 193 running the test and dbol together. then when i got off i dropped down to 175 (which i also quit working out and eating for two weeks). now i've started back at the gym, and just eating my ass off (a jar of peanut butter a day), and i'm up to 190 lbs right now, and i am not on anything. thats a long way from when i started working out 8 years ago, and i was 125 lbs. it just seems like i've gotten to the point where the steroids dont do too much help since i've gained so much weight already. i just find they make me wanna have sex more when im on them. but i dont notice the strength or size gain like i wish. thats why im thinking bout maybe just jumpiong right into tren . cuz i have a feeling i might just be wasting my money with winny or eq.

[Random]

Man, it sounds like you need to revise your diet....hows ur diet? maybe you need to take a break, prime, then hit a nice cycle after your diet is on etc....

[abcdef81]

well right now im on a bulking diet....300 g protein a day, pizzas, a jar of peanut butter, etc. and its working really good. i plan on gaining a lil more size and then i wanna hit the hardening steroids and i'll change my diet up. i gotta gain a lil more tho cuz i know that weights gonna come off when i start my cutting cycle. i'm trying to maximize my lean muscle gain and minimize the fat gain. i'm doing pretty good on my ratios. i know it looks like im eating alot of fat and carbs, but my metabolism is so fast, that i have to stay at that amount or i wouldnt be able to keep my weight up.

[king6]

well right now im on a bulking diet....300 g protein a day, pizzas, a jar of peanut butter, etc.

WTF?

[abcdef81]

yea, no one at the gym can believe me...they all laugh and call me "peanut butter". its true. i know the exact facts. a whole jar of p.b. got about 100 g of protein and about 2500 calories. i have to eat that much food to keep my weight up. i just sit in front the tv with the spoon and glass of water and eat the p.b. by the spoonfuls. im so used to it now it doesnt bother me. my normal baseline weight is 125 lbs. i am extremely ectomorphic. so, it takes that many calories a day to keep me around 190 lbs. thats not counting all the tuna fish and potatoes and pizza i eat either. i get another 100 g of protein from tuna. and about another 100 g from other stuff thruout the day.

[Random]

Honestly that seems like a horrible diet, you need to eat better foods than that...and in large amounts throughout the day

[king6]

yea, no one at the gym can believe me...they all laugh and call me "peanut butter". its true. i know the exact facts. a whole jar of p.b. got about 100 g of protein and about 2500 calories. i have to eat that much food to keep my weight up. i just sit in front the tv with the spoon and glass of water and eat the p.b. by the spoonfuls. im so used to it now it doesnt bother me. my normal baseline weight is 125 lbs. i am extremely ectomorphic. so, it takes that many calories a day to keep me around 190 lbs. thats not counting all the tuna fish and potatoes and pizza i eat either. i get another 100 g of protein from tuna. and about another 100 g from other stuff thruout the day.

Sounds like you are eating a lot of crap. PB is a good source of fat, but I eat the natural PB only 1 gram of sugar. Too much sugar turns into sloppy weight. Pizza is another bad choice. Too many simple carbs, sugars, and saturated fats. I agree with the seperation of carbs and fats. Each meal should be comprised of a protein and either a fat or a complex carb. If you are a true ectomorph you want to increase your complex carb intake. This does not mean donuts, pizza, and Burger King. You want to increase your complex carb intake, such as yams, whole wheat pasta, and brown rice. Fruit is another good source, banannas are a good source of carbs. Remember you need to eat a lot of calories but they need to be clean.

[Random]

Sounds like you are eating a lot of crap. PB is a good source of fat, but I eat the natural PB only 1 gram of sugar. Too much sugar turns into sloppy weight. Pizza is another bad choice. Too many simple carbs, sugars, and saturated fats. I agree with the seperation of carbs and fats. Each meal should be comprised of a protein and either a fat or a complex carb. If you are a true ectomorph you want to increase your complex carb intake. This does not mean donuts, pizza, and Burger King. You want to increase your complex carb intake, such as yams, whole wheat pasta, and brown rice. Fruit is another good source, banannas are a good source of carbs. Remember you need to eat a lot of calories but they need to be clean.

Completely agree

[Halfcenturian]

Food-abol. 7000 calories a day. And that's no shit!

[abcdef81]

o lord i do eat the complex carbs trust me. i eat potatoes and rice all the time for my complex carbs. the pizza i eat is actually very good too. it has 50 g of carbs with only 6 g of sugar. and well the p.b. got a lot of fat and sugar, but that is the only thing i have found to help me gain weight. i munch on about half the jar thruout the day, and then i load up on the other half the jar b4 i go to bed at night, cuz thats where i always lose weight is when i sleep. people can say what they want, but p.b. is the only thing i have found to help, besides taking steroids themelves. everytime i tell my diet to someone i get criticized, but i gotta stand firm by it. i know my body. i have tried everything and anything thruout the past eight years. and i find the best diet for my body type is tuna, chicken, potatoes, macaroni, eggs, pizza, and p.b. those are the most solid things i can find, thats what i eat everyday.

i have no problem at all with my diet. i dont even know how the topic got into this. just wondering others opinions on winny, tren , eq, and masteron ?

[king6]

o lord i do eat the complex carbs trust me. i eat potatoes and rice all the time for my complex carbs. the pizza i eat is actually very good too. it has 50 g of carbs with only 6 g of sugar. and well the p.b. got a lot of fat and sugar, but that is the only thing i have found to help me gain weight. i munch on about half the jar thruout the day, and then i load up on the other half the jar b4 i go to bed at night, cuz thats where i always lose weight is when i sleep. people can say what they want, but p.b. is the only thing i have found to help, besides taking steroids themelves. everytime i tell my diet to someone i get criticized, but i gotta stand firm by it. i know my body. i have tried everything and anything thruout the past eight years. and i find the best diet for my body type is tuna, chicken, potatoes, macaroni, eggs, pizza, and p.b. those are the most solid things i can find, thats what i eat everyday. if yall guys could recommend anything better, plase help me out.

I would through some Cytogainer shakes in your diet. But what you should do is post your complete diet in the diet forum and let the experts break it down and make suggestions.

[abcdef81]

my diets fine. it works for me. i find those weight gainers go straight thru my system.

so, anyways, idk im at a standstill on what im gonna do when it comes time to run my cutting cycle. maybe i'll just leave them all out and run test prop and clen together.

[king6]

i have no problem at all with my diet. i dont even know how the topic got into this. just wondering others opinions on winny, tren, eq, and masteron?

Cutting has very little to do with AAS. Building lean muscle mass and cutting are two different things. Which are you trying to do?

[abcdef81]

trying to get recommendations on which steroid is best for cutting. i'm preparing early and just getting different peoples opinions on which is best (take in mind i get acne and hairloss sides fairly easily). i'm gonna make my decision real soon. i'm leaning towards just running test prop and clen and see how that does. beings, all the other stuff has unwanted side effects.

[dhriscerr]

my diets fine. it works for me. i find those weight gainers go straight thru my system.

so, anyways, idk im at a standstill on what im gonna do when it comes time to run my cutting cycle. maybe i'll just leave them all out and run test prop and clen together.

Obviously its not working for you if your trying to cut, that means your gaining to much fat. want alot of cals, 1 cup of oats is 300 cals. so eat 1 cup with every meal, if you eat 6-7 meals, thats 2000cals just from oats, and a cup isnt that much. Vitamin B12 so you can eat more, i dont think any aas is going to get you as cut as you want when you eat 1800 cals from fat in PB with pizza. just my .02

[abcdef81]

i dont think yall guys are reading the posts correctly or entirely. i am not trying to cut right now. as of right now i am on a bulking cycle....hence all the calories and additional fats and carbs along with my protein intake. I was asking about a cutting cycle from the beginning of the message, in preparation for when i do begin it in a month or so. and somehow along the way my current bulking cylce got thrown in the mix.

All, i want is others opinions on what steroid they would recommend in conjunction with a good, clean upcoming cutting cycle that would be minimal on acne or hairloss sides?

[armbar83]

i cant believe no one flammed this guy hard