andropen/sustanon250 cycle

[amazinspiderman]

Hi.
I was going to run a andropen /tren A cycle for 8 weeks
weeks 1-2
Andropen @ 550mg week
Tren A @ 225mg week

weeks 3-4
Andropen @ 825mg week
Tren A @ 225 week

week 5
Andropen @ 1100mg week
Tren A @ 300mg week

week 6-8
Andropen @ 550mg week
tren A @ 150mg week

But now i want to make it a 12 week but my source is out of andropen and tren A so he suggested i switched to sustanon /winny

So the cycle is the same but

week 6 will be the same as week 5

week 7
Andropen @ 550mg week
sustanon @ 500mg week
Tren A @ 150mg week
Winstrol @ 50mg week

week 8-10
Sustanon @ 1000mg week
Winstrol @ 200mg week

week 11
Sustanon @ 750mg week
Winstrol @ 100mg week

Week 12
Sustanon @ 250mg week

I was just wondering what you guys think cause i never done anything like switching in the midle of a cycle, this is not my first cycle of course and i train hard and have a good diet, i just need some opinions.
Forgot to tell you i'm also taking nolvadex @ 10mg every day and i'm currently @ week 6

Txk

[Kale]

Dude Pyramiding is old school. Pick a dose and stick to it. Also Anrdopen and Sust are pretty much the same thing so switching mid cycle isnt a big deal

[amazinspiderman]

What's the pros/cons of pyramiding or sticking with the same dose?

[Kale]

What's the pros/cons of pyramiding or sticking with the same dose?

The problem with Pyramiding is that because your hormone levels are fluctuating so much that there is a good chance the potential sides from acne etc will be worse. Stable hormone levels are what its all about !!!

[amazinspiderman]

Ok.
Should i be taking anything else besides novadex during cycle?
i read some ppl use hcg during cycle.

For the pct what do you think of
weeks 1-3
nolvadex @ 10mg daily
hcg @ 1500iu week

weeks 4-5
nolvadex @ 10mg daiyly

i was thiking of adding aromasin but someone told me it was a stupid thing to do but didn't gave me any reasons why.

[Kale]

OK during the cycle you would be better off getting some Armidex/Ldex (its the same thing) rather than Nolvadex . Its much more effective and will help to control bloat as well.

You can use HCG in the cycle if you are really worried about ball shrinkage but unless its an issue with you I wouldnt bother.

Now as for PCT without Clomid this is the latest version that is going around right now

Week 1
Nolvadex: 20mg/day, HCG: 500 IU/day, Aromasin 20mg/day, Vit. E 1000 IU/day
Week2
Nolvadex: 20mg/day, HCG: 500 IU/day, Aromasin 20mg/day, Vit. E: 1000 iu/day
Week 3
Nolvadex: 20mg/day, HCG: 500 IU/day, Aromasin 20mg/day, Vit. E: 1000 IU/day
Week 4
Nolvadex: 20mg/day, Aromasin 20mg/day
Week 5
Nolvadex: 20mg/day
Week 6
Nolvadex: 20mg/day

[amazinspiderman]

Tkx for the help

[elitetky]

why does the vit E comes into play with PCT??