Insane Friend No PCT Sick Results

[italionos]

I got a freind he weighs about 200lbs, 6% bf, benchin about 460 around there. constantly juicin , month after month, and he has never taken any PCT. He has been juicin for a good 3 years now maybe. I dont get it he keeps all his gains, and the kids a monster. Oh yeah i forgot to mention he is 19 years old.! He stumps me.. how can this be.

[longhorn814]

so he's been juicing for 3 straight years?

[ruhkus]

200lbs and benching 460...I hope he is about 4'8"...lol

[italionos]

Yeah well ,on and off without much rest in between. Think he is on his 3rd cycle of HGH also.

[italionos]

I jsut called him he weighs 187 5'7''

[italionos]

looks liek he weighs 250lbs though, kids a freak on nature, maybe its genes or somethin.

[Cat316]

Juicing for 3 years and only being 187 isn't great results...imagine if he did it right

[italionos]

I guess, but for his weight he is liftin heavy man, whats a good bench for 187lbs?

[SuperLift]

I got a freind he weighs about 200lbs, 6% bf, benchin about 460 around there. constantly juicin , month after month, and he has never taken any PCT. He has been juicin for a good 3 years now maybe. I dont get it he keeps all his gains, and the kids a monster. Oh yeah i forgot to mention he is 19 years old.! He stumps me.. how can this be.

[pavlenko]

thats deff a good bench number man, ur friend is strong! what race is he?

[italionos]

100% italian
I jsut needed to ask you guys, what you though, cuz its annoying he dosent talk about it alot. For all I know he hasnt stopped for 3 years straight, and he's a ticking time bomb.

[italionos]

and no pct ? wierd.

[malidfa]

so he started juicing when he was 16

[guest589745]

and no pct ? wierd.

he is 19 years old, only 200lbs and juicing for 3 years straight with no PCT. What is so weird? I would say it is more stupid than anything and obviously not working.

[guest589745]

And those are far from "sick results " man, seriously.

[GFLEXXX]

I think his results are pretty good actually IF all those numbers you throw around are true. At 5'7" I can't see his starting weight prior to much more than 150-157lbs.. so 30 to 40lbs of lean muscle mass (25% of his own body weight) in 3 years would be impressive...as to equally a 200lb guy put on 50lbs of lean body mass...

imagine what it could have been like others say!

[t-gunz]

have you got pics of your mate???

[Hellmaskbanned]

He's 5'7'' 187lbs, and has been juicing for 3 years straight.

Ok....Why are you bragging on him again?

Does he do anything? Powerlift,bber,sports? Or does he do pushups to the refridgerator each day to get his HGH and back to his bench press?

[MuscleScience]

WOW, 460 at 19. I should have started earlier. I had a buddy who played baseball and later got drafted by the yankees. He was 6'5'' maybe 195, threw 81-82 mph coming out of highschool. Went to college did one cycle put on 30 lbs of muscle and was hitting 96 mph on three different pro scouts radar guns at a scout camp he and I went to the following summer. I was only hitting 87 to 88 I wish he would have told me then what he was up to. LOL

[Hellmaskbanned]

WOW, 460 at 19. I should have started earlier. I had a buddy who played baseball and later got drafted by the yankees. He was 6'5'' maybe 195, threw 81-82 mph coming out of highschool. Went to college did one cycle put on 30 lbs of muscle and was hitting 96 mph on three different pro scouts radar guns at a scout camp he and I went to the following summer. I was only hitting 87 to 88 I wish he would have told me then what he was up to. LOL

Steroids don't add to significant increases in arm speed.
I could see it strengthening his core/legs to an extent, but you either have a fast arm or you don't.

[MartyMcFly]

Steroids don't add to significant increases in arm speed.
I could see it strengthening his core/legs to an extent, but you either have a fast arm or you don't.

Wouldn't it make you slower. Less flexibility. Pitchers aren't that big anyway.

[guest589745]

Don't you think the strength of a muscle would help determine the speed of which it can be moved hellmask? Or no....?

[guest589745]

Wouldn't it make you slower. Less flexibility. Pitchers aren't that big anyway.

more muscular people are less flexible = myth.

[MuscleScience]

Steroids don't add to significant increases in arm speed.
I could see it strengthening his core/legs to an extent, but you either have a fast arm or you don't.

If you add muscle that increases strength, increase muscular strenght increase power production. Increase power production will increase arm speed. Its no different than sprinter taking juice to increase their 100m time. Its all anaerobic power.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Don't you think the strength of a muscle would help determine the speed of which it can be moved hellmask? Or no....?

That's true, But in my eyes fast twitch muscle fibers play a big role in how fast one can throw. Some either have the talent or not, then Practice/tecnique increases this, not AS.
I can see someone how trains and throws constintly having a big increase in arm speed if he knew how to use his body well. Example before he threw mostly arm , because his legs/core lacked power/strength.
Now , with the help of steroids he is able to throw with more body allowing the arm to whip over the top much faster. Not necessarly adding more power to the arm, but more power to the body to transfer to the arm.
Just my theory.

[Hellmaskbanned]

more muscular people are less flexible = myth.

True, but the requirements of some throwing sports in flexibility. Having upper body bulk is still counterproductive. Upper body relaxation, being able to keep the arm back behind your hips etc...When having a 55inch chest and 19 inch arms that might be a tough one lol.

[guest589745]

Hmmm, I guess I could understand that.

[oc pitbull]

i think i have to call bs

[Superhuman]

If he's 19 and had been juicing for 3 years straight with NO breaks then he should be above 200lbs by now... especially with the HGH. I'm 19 and I just started HGH in mid-December.... I've gained over 25lbs of LEAN MASS already. (GET THIS - I'm NOT on any Anabolics right now, either!)

[Superhuman]

is this your friend?? New Pics 19y/o 5'7 200lbs

[oc pitbull]

If he's 19 and had been juicing for 3 years straight with NO breaks then he should be above 200lbs by now... especially with the HGH. I'm 19 and I just started HGH in mid-December.... I've gained over 25lbs of LEAN MASS already. (GET THIS - I'm NOT on any Anabolics right now, either!)

damn man

[JMan06]

Nah this stuff happens actualy. Its NOT BS. One of my buddies is 19, hes about 5 foot 6 and 190lbs lean around 8%. Been on juice NONSTOP for about a year now. Takes high doses (2 grams test/week) and bridges cycles...so never comes off. Anyways hes benching 4 plates (405) for a few reps, competes as well.

LOL Like we tell him, its easier to jump over him then walk around him. Kids MASSIVE

[Superhuman]

Nah this stuff happens actualy. Its NOT BS. One of my buddies is 19, hes about 5 foot 6 and 190lbs lean around 8%. Been on juice NONSTOP for about a year now. Takes high doses (2 grams test/week) and bridges cycles...so never comes off. Anyways hes benching 4 plates (405) for a few reps, competes as well.

LOL Like we tell him, its easier to jump over him then walk around him. Kids MASSIVE

HE'S RUNNING 2gs/WEEK??? WTF

This guy is an idiot. 5'6" 190 is not that big... at my height of 6'3" that would be proportionately equal to 215lbs. I am 19 and I weigh 260lbs right now --- I have never run over a gram a week of test, and the only time I did I think it was fake or underdosed anyways so it doesn't count.

Also, senior year in high school I repped 405lbs when I weighed 215lbs. I was on 500mg/wk Test Enth and that's it.

BTW... proportionately if I were his height I would weigh 228lbs

[Hellmaskbanned]

HE'S RUNNING 2gs/WEEK??? WTF

This guy is an idiot. 5'6" 190 is not that big... at my height of 6'3" that would be proportionately equal to 215lbs. I am 19 and I weigh 260lbs right now --- I have never run over a gram a week of test, and the only time I did I think it was fake or underdosed anyways so it doesn't count.

Also, senior year in high school I repped 405lbs when I weighed 215lbs. I was on 500mg/wk Test Enth and that's it.

BTW... proportionately if I were his height I would weigh 228lbs

Where are you gauging your proportions from?

5'6'' 180lbs would look much bigger/bulkier than someone 6'3'' 215.
By the way, gonna send you a PM.

[aadrenaline]

my friend natty in high school was 5'10" 200lbs benching 400 i think he put up 450 at 19yo no juice. hes an animal

[Hellmaskbanned]

On to friends huh lol.

I had a friend in highschool 5'9'' 285lbs 10-12% BF Benching 405 , Cleaning 315.....Not a good athlete though. NATURAL

Another who was 19 , 6'3'' 295lbs, 18% BF , just started lifting LOL.NATURAL

Some ppl are gifted with size, but they cant do shit.

[aadrenaline]

i also know a few bro that have been juicing pretty much since thery were 17 they are like 37 now compete their whole lifes, never sick, no problems with bloodwork..its all genetics man. my 1 bro is an animal gains lean mass lifting his fork to eat its rediculous.

[aadrenaline]

me personally i dont care about weight or how much i can lift. i just want to look good. honestly

[aadrenaline]

If he's 19 and had been juicing for 3 years straight with NO breaks then he should be above 200lbs by now... especially with the HGH. I'm 19 and I just started HGH in mid-December.... I've gained over 25lbs of LEAN MASS already. (GET THIS - I'm NOT on any Anabolics right now, either!)

so im guessing you like GH then huh? lol

ive tossed the idea around what are you running it at or should i just PM you im interested.

[Superhuman]

Where are you gauging your proportions from?

5'6'' 180lbs would look much bigger/bulkier than someone 6'3'' 215.
By the way, gonna send you a PM.

i'm just going by numbers, not by looks. I use my own "BIGNESS INDEX" lol

HIM-
180lbs (his weight), divided by 66in (height of 5'6") = 2.78

2.78 is his "BIGNESS INDEX"

now lets do Jay Cutler at his contest weight

JAY
260lbs (his weight), divided by 69in (height of 5'9") = 3.77

3.77 is Jay's "Bigness Index"

now lets do ME...

ME
260lbs, divided by 75in = 3.47

3.47 is MY "Bigness Index"



Now lets look at the totals...
HIM: 2.78
JAY: 3.77 <------WINNER, HE IS THE BIGGEST
ME: 3.47