2nd cycle doses with prop eod

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 12:31 AM

Ill be running prop and winny for my 2nd cycle. I was thinking of doing 200mg of prop EOD for 10 weeks. Would that be too high of a dose? My previouse cycle was 500mg/week of test e, had AMAZING gains. I just wanna kill it this time around

Think that 200mg (which would translate into 2CC's would be too big of an injection to handle in my shoulders? Would the pain be too unbearable? Also, is the pain worse the more CC's your injecting?

Thanks bros

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 02:30 AM

bump

**knownutz** · 02-06-2007, 02:46 AM

I use prop everyday. The more cc's in a shot the more it hurts me. For me 1cc no real pain, 2cc is painful. Everybody's different. May want to start shots daily and see what your reaction is. As far as the amount goes what are your stats?

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 03:12 AM

5'10 205lbs around 11% bf. done 1 cycle before. test e at 500mg/week

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 04:41 PM

Anyone?

**Swifto** · 02-06-2007, 04:43 PM

It only your second cycle.

I'd go with 75mg/ED or 150mg/EOD. Possibly with an oral kickstart. I like Tbol 60mg/ED. Solid cycle, solid gains.

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

It only your second cycle.

I'd go with 75mg/ED or 150mg/EOD. Possibly with an oral kickstart. I like Tbol 60mg/ED. Solid cycle, solid gains.

Would tbol yield LEAN gains? Thats my goal. I dont want to bloat at all, imlooking for solid lean gains. Is tbol gonna bloat me like dbol ?

How about

prop week 1-10
tbol week 1-5
winny week 6-10

??

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 05:18 PM

Whats the full name for TBol? I cant find it in the steroid profiles forum.

**Jucinator2** · 02-06-2007, 05:24 PM

4- chlorodehydrommethyltestosterone long ass name its in the book Anabolic 2005, 2006 ,2007 also in anthony Roberts new book and other places.

**Jucinator2** · 02-06-2007, 05:30 PM

it wont bloat you like d-bol its good shit , I think it takes longer to kick in then d-bol but thats just my opinion, over all a good oral.

**stuball** · 02-06-2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by JMan06

Ill be running prop and winny for my 2nd cycle. I was thinking of doing 200mg of prop EOD for 10 weeks. Would that be too high of a dose? My previouse cycle was 500mg/week of test e, had AMAZING gains. I just wanna kill it this time around

Think that 200mg (which would translate into 2CC's would be too big of an injection to handle in my shoulders? Would the pain be too unbearable? Also, is the pain worse the more CC's your injecting?

Thanks bros

The pain also depends on the gear you have, i had human grade totally painless, then i also had UGL and that wasent to bad at 100 mgs ed.. so maybe you would want to test it out first before doin ed shots and i hope you are ready to become a human pin cushin..lol ED shots didnt bother me, oh and i love prop..

**JMan06** · 02-06-2007, 05:45 PM

cant do ed. too much lol. so thats why i need to put the 200mg dose eod. tahts 2ccs of ****ing prop in the delts and ass.

That must kill. Is it worse then sust? Ive injected a CC of sust before.

**stuball** · 02-06-2007, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by JMan06

cant do ed. too much lol. so thats why i need to put the 200mg dose eod. tahts 2ccs of ****ing prop in the delts and ass.

That must kill. Is it worse then sust? Ive injected a CC of sust before.

Bro if ya got the gear shoot one cc and see how painful its gonna be, if its painful your not gonna want to shoot two cc's some shit can f'n cripple ya !!

**JMan06** · 02-07-2007, 12:26 AM

What about running EQ like i originaly thought of? Would I be able to get away with decent lean size gains on eq for 10 weeks at 500mg/week along with my prop at 200mg/eod?

**JMan06** · 02-07-2007, 05:12 AM

**pavlenko** · 02-07-2007, 08:58 AM

too see eq's full effect it need to be ran atleast 14 weeks, for kick start anadrol would be very good

**ecivon** · 02-07-2007, 10:05 AM

Like it was suggested to you it would be wise to make a test injection with your prop. Some prop is okay, especially with eo, or ran with b-12, but some, no matter what, will literally kick-your-ass. 2 cc's of painful prop will make it impossible for some guys to walk, stand, move around, or use stairs, or workout that muscle group where injected for weeks.

Don't blind yourself thinking negatively about ed injections -- they are not that bad and can greatly reduce pain levels by less volume per injection. Try eod as you planned and if the pain is not workable then go ed and have at least six sites to rotate through -- glutes, quads and delts.

**JMan06** · 02-08-2007, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by pavlenko

too see eq's full effect it need to be ran atleast 14 weeks, for kick start anadrol would be very good

Ok so never mind on the EQ. Would deca be alright to be run at 600mg/week for 10 weeks? Would that be long enough? Take in mind my last cycle I did TEST enanthate and my gains STOPPED after the 9-10th week... Would this mean i could get my max gains out of deca by the time 10 weeks is over?

Also how would deca bee in my cycle of prop and winny if im looking for lean gains? I know deca does add some water, but if im runinng the prop and especialy winy with it will the winny get rid of the water and keep my cycle a lean gaining one? (dont want another moon face like i had i test e).

Thanks alot guys!