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    Tren cutting me up

    I have been on a cycle for a little over 4 wks. It consist of Tren at 400mg per week, shot eod and 750 Test E per wk and 50mg of Dbol ED for 4 weeks. Was planning on staying on the Tren for 2 more weeks. Anyways, was wondering why I am not making massive gains with this cycle. I would think with this much Dbol and the rest, I should have packed on 15 the first 4 weeks. Maybe I am crazy or have unrealistic expectations. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this. I have leaned up and I can tell I am cutting fat but not sure why I haven't put on anymore size? Put on about 8 lbs.

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    hows ur diet?u can take all the aas in the world but if u don't have a good diet u won't gain

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    My diet is solid.

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    How is your gear? Is it all real?

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    any previous cycles?test e can take up to 6 weeks to kick in.it did for me.are u running tren e or a?the 8 pounds my guess is from the dbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by struggles
    I have been on a cycle for a little over 4 wks. It consist of Tren at 400mg per week, shot eod and 750 Test E per wk and 50mg of Dbol ED for 4 weeks. Was planning on staying on the Tren for 2 more weeks. Anyways, was wondering why I am not making massive gains with this cycle. I would think with this much Dbol and the rest, I should have packed on 15 the first 4 weeks. Maybe I am crazy or have unrealistic expectations. Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this. I have leaned up and I can tell I am cutting fat but not sure why I haven't put on anymore size? Put on about 8 lbs.

    im confused, are you running tren ace? are you running ai's to combat dbol bloat?

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    Do you have any water-retention? If you say you are losing fat but you have gained 8lbs in 2 weeks then that's pretty impressive if you ask me. Think of it this way... if you have lost, say, 10lbs of fat and gained 8lbs of total bodyweight, that means you have gained 18lbs of muscle (and water).

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    Yes I am running Tren A. No I am not taking any AIs for the bloat. I have nolva, Letro, and clomid on hand though. I not really complaining, just wondering what to expect, because I have never taken Tren. Also, what is the longest I can run the tren. And on another note, it is making my piss really yellow and darker than normal. Never had that happen before. I have taken alot of stuff before, but never had my urine effected like this before

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    Yeah you are probably right. Should be pretty happy that I am cutting fat too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by struggles
    Yes I am running Tren A. No I am not taking any AIs for the bloat. I have nolva, Letro, and clomid on hand though. I not really complaining, just wondering what to expect, because I have never taken Tren. Also, what is the longest I can run the tren. And on another note, it is making my piss really yellow and darker than normal. Never had that happen before. I have taken alot of stuff before, but never had my urine effected like this before
    I had the same thing with Tren before - I quit running it after about 10 weeks when I got bad side cramps. It really hardened me up though

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    Quote Originally Posted by struggles
    Yes I am running Tren A. No I am not taking any AIs for the bloat. I have nolva, Letro, and clomid on hand though. I not really complaining, just wondering what to expect, because I have never taken Tren. Also, what is the longest I can run the tren. And on another note, it is making my piss really yellow and darker than normal. Never had that happen before. I have taken alot of stuff before, but never had my urine effected like this before
    The dark piss is common with tren , it happened to me the first time i did it. Its because tren is pretty harsh on your kidneys. Make sure you are chugging a lot of water to flush them out. If you start pissing blood, its time to stop the tren

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    Thinks guys. Is there anything else I can take to help with the kidneys

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    take letro ED as this will help with tren ...

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    Seriously man, gaining 8lbs while losing noticable fat.... in only 4 weeks??? You can't really expect more than that brother.

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    cranberry juice is good for the kidneys

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    Seriously man, gaining 8lbs while losing noticable fat.... in only 4 weeks??? You can't really expect more than that brother.
    changing body composition is something that is desirable...

    I tend to stay the same weight, but get larger more defined, think of it this way, if you lose fat (hard to meassure) and gain 8 lbs..

    i would suggest that you have actually net gained 6 lbs of lean muscle.... that's great for a cycle..

    if you were eating enough and running it as a bulker, i would suggest you are not eating enough, plan and simple..

    post up your diet, we could help some more..
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    4 weeks is still pretty early bro..ive ran tren up to eight weeks 75mgs/day i wouldnt recommend much longer than that..cranberry extract will help with cleaning up the kidneys just follow the directions on the bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    Seriously man, gaining 8lbs while losing noticable fat.... in only 4 weeks??? You can't really expect more than that brother.
    right, if your runnin the cycle for 10 weeks then thatll probably be a good 20 pounds if you keep it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by odix
    take letro ED as this will help with tren...

    Hopefully you have some sort of Test or Cialis or something. That combo together will give you serious ED.

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    I am running Test E at 750mg a week with the Tren and Dbol .

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    Im curious to know how everything ends up. Ill be starting my next cycle very soon which looks a lot like yours. Just switch the dbol out with some drol. (Have never run drol, only dbol.)

    750wk 1-10 sust
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    tren makes ur pee into maple syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mousetraps
    tren makes ur pee into maple syrup.

    MMMMMMMMMMM...... Maple syrup!!!!

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    Getting some tenderness in my nips. How much Letro should I take a day. I have a squirt bottle. It doesn't say how many squirts equals what. It just says, 2.5mg/ml

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