Shocking the Body into INSANE GROWTH STAGES!, check out this new method of CYCLING

[testosterona]

i recall last cycle i went on for 8wks, then cruised on test at a low dose, then went back on. when i went on for the second time i had EXPLOSIVE gians, very similar to the first 8wk run. i'm considering doing something similar to shock the receptors into growing. hitting the body w/ high doses over a short period of time, then cruising on a low test dose, then shocking w/ a cycle again while running into PCT. let me lay out my thoughts:

wk1-4 drol 100mgs ed
wk1-6 test prop 150mgs ed
wk1-6 tren 75mgs ed

wk7-10 test e 250mgs wk
wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

wk11-16 test p 150mgs ed
wk11-16 masteron 75mgs ed
wk11-16 var 50mgs ed

NOW TELL ME THAT WOULDN"T MAKE YOU EXPLODE!!!?? this is a new idea of mine that i might just try. yes the doses are a bit high, but the idea is to shock the body into growth w/ the smallest amount of time "on" cycle. LMK what your thoughts are

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[*Narkissos*]

i recall last cycle i went on for 8wks, then cruised on test at a low dose, then went back on. when i went on for the second time i had EXPLOSIVE gians, very similar to the first 8wk run. i'm considering doing something similar to shock the receptors into growing. hitting the body w/ high doses over a short period of time, then cruising on a low test dose, then shocking w/ a cycle again while running into PCT. let me lay out my thoughts:

'blasting' and 'cruising' aren't new.

Top amateurs use it.. etc.

Your cycle below is flawed however.

wk1-4 drol 100mgs ed
wk1-6 test prop 150mgs ed
wk1-6 tren 75mgs ed

wk7-10 test e 250mgs wk
wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

wk11-16 test p 150mgs ed
wk11-16 masteron 75mgs ed
wk11-16 var 50mgs ed

The most minor of flaws are above in bold.

Correct them..and then you can discuss rationale.

Narkissos

[testosterona]

i'm kinda confused on what you watn me to change. it's oviously the time periods, please elighten me. thansk nark

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[*Narkissos*]

^^For a 'cruise' to be a 'cruise' (i.e. for it to work), there must be active hormone (albeit at a lower dose) administered tru-out.

Think of the actual release time, post-administration, of test-E.

Think of the time lag between the last shot of propionate and the time it takes for the test-e to reach stable serum levels..

[*Narkissos*]

wk1-4 drol 100mgs ed
wk1-6 test prop 150mgs ed
wk1-6 tren 75mgs ed

wk7-10 test e 250mgs wk
wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

wk11-16 test p 150mgs ed
wk11-16 masteron 75mgs ed
wk11-16 var 50mgs ed

NOW TELL ME THAT WOULDN"T MAKE YOU EXPLODE!!!??

It's gear.. Of course you'd grow on it.

Doesn't mean that it couldn't be more effective though.

I'm not giving steroid advice per se.. I'll just extrapolate on your cycle idea..and the dosage range you provide to create a more feasible structure.

A better structure:

Weeks 1-10: test-e 250 mg Ewk

wk1-4 drol 100mgs ed
wk1-6 test prop 100mgs ed
wk1-6 tren 75mgs ed

wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

wk11-16 test p 150mgs ed
wk11-16 masteron 75mgs ed
wk11-16 var 50mgs ed

Ok. that being said.

Why're the specific compounds chosen?

Why test + dht-deriv + 19-nor in the first half.. Then test + 2(dht-derivs) in the second?

[*Narkissos*]

Edit:

Weeks 1-10: test-e 250 mg Ewk

In the first have of your previous cycle you have 150 mg ED prop.. or 1050 mg esterified test per week. Drop the prop dosage..and run a fixed dose of test-e at base + 100 mg prop ED. It will be less total testosterone ... but you get the convenience of cruising at week 7 comfortably by just dropping the prop and secondary compounds.

wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

I'm not sure who the cycle caters too.. so i wouldn't input further, with regard to dosages compound choices etc. (with regard to peptide hormones namely)

Why test + dht-deriv + 19-nor in the first half.. Then test + 2(dht-derivs) in the second?

Bump.

[numbat]

Shocking the Body into INSANE GROWTH STAGES!, check out this new method of CYCLING


kinda thought this might be a ross title.lol.no offense test

[RoNNy THe BuLL]

Here's the thing with 'shocking' the body....it's all about your CNS (Central Nervous System).

If you're in a plateau and need to get out, give your receptors a break by giving your body some time off.

Once your neurons start to become use to firing and receptors get used to receiving those neurons, you need to 'shock' your body by giving your CNS some time off.

Again, the juice doesn't shock your body as much as some much needed rest time.

Just my two cc's man.

[testosterona]

Edit:

In the first have of your previous cycle you have 150 mg ED prop.. or 1050 mg esterified test per week. Drop the prop dosage..and run a fixed dose of test-e at base + 100 mg prop ED. It will be less total testosterone ... but you get the convenience of cruising at week 7 comfortably by just dropping the prop and secondary compounds.



I'm not sure who the cycle caters too.. so i wouldn't input further, with regard to dosages compound choices etc. (with regard to peptide hormones namely)



Bump.

didn't really think about the two DHT's. i just can't thin k of any 19nor's that i like besides tren , and i don't watn tto run tren towards the end of a cycle. what would you suggest instead of test/var/mast?

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[*Narkissos*]

Here's the thing with 'shocking' the body....it's all about your CNS (Central Nervous System).

If you're in a plateau and need to get out, give your receptors a break by giving your body some time off.

Once your neurons start to become use to firing and receptors get used to receiving those neurons, you need to 'shock' your body by giving your CNS some time off.

Again, the juice doesn't shock your body as much as some much needed rest time.

Just my two cc's man.

Ronny!

Haven't seen you around in a bit

[vitor]

Running 2 DHT compounds is no problem,
but I would use 1 with AR binding and the other one with non-AR meditaded action, more synergy...

The var could be switched with winny(from week 11-16),
Halo would be my choice though.

[*Narkissos*]

Running 2 DHT compounds is no problem,

It isnt' for me either.

I was wondering about HIS rationale tho

[BG]

Ive been doing this for over a year now.

[Random]

kinda thought this might be a ross title.lol.no offense test

LOLOL i was sure this was gonna be a ross thread too!

[RobbieG]

my best shock .. was the year off.. when I began to train again.. 3x more energy, 3x more gains.. and 3, yes count'em, three times more strenght.

it´s unbelievable.

[GHO5T]

i recall last cycle i went on for 8wks, then cruised on test at a low dose, then went back on. when i went on for the second time i had EXPLOSIVE gians, very similar to the first 8wk run. i'm considering doing something similar to shock the receptors into growing. hitting the body w/ high doses over a short period of time, then cruising on a low test dose, then shocking w/ a cycle again while running into PCT. let me lay out my thoughts:

wk1-4 drol 100mgs ed
wk1-6 test prop 150mgs ed
wk1-6 tren 75mgs ed

wk7-10 test e 250mgs wk
wk7-10 igflr3 60mcgs pwo

wk11-16 test p 150mgs ed
wk11-16 masteron 75mgs ed
wk11-16 var 50mgs ed

NOW TELL ME THAT WOULDN"T MAKE YOU EXPLODE!!!?? this is a new idea of mine that i might just try. yes the doses are a bit high, but the idea is to shock the body into growth w/ the smallest amount of time "on" cycle. LMK what your thoughts are

test

You state the idea is to shock the body, in the shortest amount of time on cycle. Yet your cycle is 16 weeks long, doesnt make much sense to me.

[goose]

Your 22 and your test levels are 200 and you want to run a 16 weeks cycle with 19-nor.I would of thought recovery would be a primary objective not a ingenuity way of shock growth.

[testosterona]

thanks for the input ronney, BTW: i'm trying to harden up at the end. kinda like a bulk first, then a cutting round at the end wks 11-16. so you're suggesting winny or halo/masteron ??

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[testosterona]

Your 22 and your test levels are 200 and you want to run a 16 weeks cycle with 19-nor.I would of thought recovery would be a primary objective not a ingenuity way of shock growth.

lol, it is Goose. im planning, don't we all
also, i have another BW appnt comming up soon. iv been on adex for a while now, so we'll see what happens. until then, i'm just thinking and planning

test

[goose]

lol, it is Goose. im planning, don't we all
also, i have another BW appnt comming up soon. iv been on adex for a while now, so we'll see what happens. until then, i'm just thinking and planning

test

Just with my Experience and personal point of view,cycles are best at 8 week,then recover.Why 8 weeks ? This is the point when I have noticed cycles halting in gains.Why contuie? Attack then defend.The only other way to keep longer cycles more active is swithching compounds which works but recovery is harder.

[reppedout1]

hey goose when u say ur gains start to diminish after 8 weeks your talkin about short esters right?

[goose]

hey goose when u say ur gains start to diminish after 8 weeks your talkin about short esters right?

Mostly....But when I speak to guys who do test E at 500 for 12 weeks 75% give me the same results,at around week 8 it dramatically slows down.

[BG]

Dosage increases and compound changes helps the gains keep coming to me after week 8. But goose is correct, at your age I would stay away from lengthy cycles.

[Hellmaskbanned]

I personally feel it worse on the HPTA to cycle frequent shorter cycles than a long cycle.

"on" "off" "on" "off" Your body is on a roller coaster,while with one long cycle..."oooooonnnnnnnn" "oooooooofffffffff"

Find it to have more stability for the ol body.

[testosterona]

I personally feel it worse on the HPTA to cycle frequent shorter cycles than a long cycle.

"on" "off" "on" "off" Your body is on a roller coaster,while with one long cycle..."oooooonnnnnnnn" "oooooooofffffffff"

Find it to have more stability for the ol body.

i agree HM. plus guys, this cycle is 16wks with prop wich means no waithing for the ester to clear for PCT, unlike 12wks of sust, where the hormone is still active until wk 15. if were to say wk1-12sust 750mkgs wk, would you say that it is too long? prob not, even though i'm still suppressed through wk 15 just like running a 15wks prop cycle sorry, just ranting, i see this all the time on this board, lol

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