tamoxifen

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 12:06 PM

im just about to start a new cycle is it a good idea to take tamoxifen along side dbol for the first 4 weeks?????

**plzr8** · 02-11-2007, 12:09 PM

an AI would be preferable...ie. arimidex , aromasin

what will your cycle be like besides the 4 week dbol ?

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 12:14 PM

deca 2ml, weekly, sus 250 , testex 2ml thursday alternate

deca 2ml monday

sus 250 thurs

deca 2ml monday

testex 2ml thurs

so on and so on over 12 weeks

**plzr8** · 02-11-2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by RIPPED BAZ

deca 2ml, weekly, sus 250 , testex 2ml thursday alternate

deca 2ml monday

sus 250 thurs

deca 2ml monday

testex 2ml thurs

so on and so on over 12 weeks

is this your first cycle?

**Nickster#1** · 02-11-2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by RIPPED BAZ

deca 2ml, weekly, sus 250 , testex 2ml thursday alternate

deca 2ml monday

sus 250 thurs

deca 2ml monday

testex 2ml thurs

so on and so on over 12 weeks

What are your stats? Have you ever done a cycle before?

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 01:04 PM

yeah done few this one was sugested to me by a good mate

stats 14 stone 6ft 10%bf

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 01:09 PM

bit concerned why you are asking if this is my first cycle! why? ive never done dbol before tho , usally deca and sus

deca monday 2ml
sus 2ml thurs
over 12 weeks then hcg x3 1500 14weeks monday weds fri

if im doing somthing horrible wrong then by all means please tell me

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 01:12 PM

if you have a better cycle with what i have got then please list it

**Njord** · 02-11-2007, 01:35 PM

Why are you alternating between the Testex (Test Cypionate ) and the Sustanon ? Bouncing between long and short esters seems a little counterproductive. Also the Sustanon should be taken EOD to take full advantage of the shorter acting esters in it.

**Njord** · 02-11-2007, 01:37 PM

Also, list your dosages in mg per week insted of the ml per week.

**Nickster#1** · 02-11-2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by RIPPED BAZ

yeah done few this one was sugested to me by a good mate

stats 14 stone 6ft 10%bf

Well, your good mate steered you wrong friend. Sust is a blend of short and long estsers as to where testex (cyp I believe) is just a long acting ester. Do one or the other. Sust needs to be done eod to take advantage of short acting esters, but IMO, just stick with the testex, 250mg twice a week. You sound young. What does your cycle experience consist of and how old are you (no offense).?

**passthetest** · 02-11-2007, 02:10 PM

Just take arimidex throughout your cycle

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Nickster#1

Well, your good mate steered you wrong friend. Sust is a blend of short and long estsers as to where testex (cyp I believe) is just a long acting ester. Do one or the other. Sust needs to be done eod to take advantage of short acting esters, but IMO, just stick with the testex, 250mg twice a week. You sound young. What does your cycle experience consist of and how old are you (no offense).?

am i wrong believing then testex is a short acting usally a day or two at most and sus(4weeks) to be long acting as sus has 4 esters? i am 30 years of age i know my typing does look young its the lower case black ink i use!! all my last cycles have been sus 250 and deca , ive seem to be pretty well off in the gene department as i can do fook all one month then go back to the gym and still out lift people who where in my range i know that sounds a little arragant as in oow look at me , as it might be down to well rested/rebuilt muscle
no but please tell me in your opinon what you think is best .

**RIPPED BAZ** · 02-11-2007, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Njord

Why are you alternating between the Testex (Test Cypionate) and the Sustanon? Bouncing between long and short esters seems a little counterproductive. Also the Sustanon should be taken EOD to take full advantage of the shorter acting esters in it.

for that reason or have i miss read totally? get the short working as well as the long , sus being 4 esters over a 4 week period as testex is a couple of days ............. or am i being a complete div here, i am being honest may be i have read it wrong and have done so for years

**HardCharger** · 02-11-2007, 06:47 PM

Take a look in the profiles section. Sustanon is a blend of different estered testosterones (4 of them): testosterone propionate - 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate - 60mg, and testosterone decanoate -100 mg. It's not the amout of the esters that decides the life of the steroid but the esters them selves. While Test Cyp is onle one ester it is a long acting ester.

Here, check this out: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=ester+article