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    Prop kickstart question...

    Im running sust&deca this spring.
    Im gonna run prop for the first 4 weeks as a kickstart.
    would 60-70mgs eod 1-4 be enough as a kickstart?
    Im gonna be running sust @ 125mgs/eod 1-12 at the same time along with deca 500mgs/week 1-10.

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    I would just make it an even 100mg of test prop eod as the kickstart. You do know that sustanon has prop in it, right?

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    Yes because the sust all readu has prop in it. If you shoot teh sust ed -or eod. you will do better with d-bol or drol kick start. You will have the prop from the sust plus the oral.

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    I have ran Prop EOD at 100mg for six weeks as a cycle but never for a kick starter. Next cycle i will do prop EOD 100mg because from my point of view its smarter to inject than orals. Orals are taxing on the liver however thats just my opinion. But you running sust so you might be over doing it but thats up too you. Sust has prop already but again its up to you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorgorothsatanis
    I would just make it an even 100mg of test prop eod as the kickstart. You do know that sustanon has prop in it, right?
    yes i do.
    I have tried dbol in the past, dont really like it.
    I have a 10ml @ 100mg/ml vial of prop so.. just wanna squeeze it in somewhere in the cycle.
    1000mg/4 makes 250/week.
    I can do 70 60 60 60mgs plus the sust, i think the sust will kickin nicely at the 4th week this way.

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    i wouldnt use the prop as a kickstart just bump up the sust to say...250mgs and consider using dbol as kickstart if u want...that much prop could hurt especially if they're in seperate sites and u might even get a prop flu regardless which might even put u out of lifting for a wk or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark22
    I have ran Prop EOD at 100mg for six weeks as a cycle but never for a kick starter. Next cycle i will do prop EOD 100mg because from my point of view its smarter to inject than orals. Orals are taxing on the liver however thats just my opinion. But you running sust so you might be over doing it but thats up too you. Sust has prop already but again its up to you...
    yes, its not opinionated tho, orals ARE taxing on the liver,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCB83
    yes i do.
    I have tried dbol in the past, dont really like it.
    I have a 10ml @ 100mg/ml vial of prop so.. just wanna squeeze it in somewhere in the cycle.
    1000mg/4 makes 250/week.
    I can do 70 60 60 60mgs plus the sust, i think the sust will kickin nicely at the 4th week this way.
    Guys he's running 125 mg's of sus eod if im correct thats ony 15 mg;s of prop, i think thats a waste of prop.. What you can do is on the days your shootin sus add another 60 mgs of prop then you got 75 mg's eod, if your doin the sus and prop on the same days... I ran a 10 week cycle of sus eod 250 and added 70 mg's of prop to that than the days i was not doin sus i was doin 100 mgs of prop so i was doin 100 mgs of prop ED, results were nuts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_built7
    yes, its not opinionated tho, orals ARE taxing on the liver,
    True i try to avoid them thats all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuball
    Guys he's running 125 mg's of sus eod if im correct thats ony 15 mg;s of prop, i think thats a waste of prop.. What you can do is on the days your shootin sus add another 60 mgs of prop then you got 75 mg's eod, if your doin the sus and prop on the same days... I ran a 10 week cycle of sus eod 250 and added 70 mg's of prop to that than the days i was not doin sus i was doin 100 mgs of prop so i was doin 100 mgs of prop ED, results were nuts..
    Thats what i was planning on doing for the first 4 weeks.
    Should i continue shooting 125mgs of sust eod once i'm done the prop?
    Im getting in 30xsust250, i was planning on running it for 12 weeks.That would make 625mgs/week.Should i shoot 2-3 times a week or lets say 125mgs/eod for the best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCB83
    Thats what i was planning on doing for the first 4 weeks.
    Should i continue shooting 125mgs of sust eod once i'm done the prop?
    Im getting in 30xsust250, i was planning on running it for 12 weeks.That would make 625mgs/week.Should i shoot 2-3 times a week or lets say 125mgs/eod for the best results.
    Your also running deca , correct ??? I would personally run the prop thru the whole cycle because you are useing 500 mgs of deca along with the deca in the sus.. in all reality i would run 100 mgs of prop eod and lower that deca to 400 a week.. And i cant figure out your math, but keep it at eod..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCB83
    Thats what i was planning on doing for the first 4 weeks.
    Should i continue shooting 125mgs of sust eod once i'm done the prop?
    Im getting in 30xsust250, i was planning on running it for 12 weeks.That would make 625mgs/week.Should i shoot 2-3 times a week or lets say 125mgs/eod for the best results.
    Shooting 125mg of Sust EOD for 12 weeks will give you 42 injections = 5250mg total. Divided by 12 weeks = 437.5mg per week. Not 625mg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord
    Shooting 125mg of Sust EOD for 12 weeks will give you 42 injections = 5250mg total. Divided by 12 weeks = 437.5mg per week. Not 625mg.
    I think it more like 45 shots 15 a month ?? no ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuball
    I think it more like 45 shots 15 a month ?? no ??
    I guess it depends on the numbers you use:

    14 days = 2 weeks = 7 injections

    Four injections in the first week and then 3 in the second week. (Repeat for total of 12 weeks)

    7 injections (2 weeks) x 6 (for a total of 12 weeks) = 42 injections

    Most people will list their cycle in weeks. 1 Week = 7 days. 1 month is NOT 4 weeks (31 day month = 4.42 weeks).

    7 days x 12 weeks = 84 days = 42 injections if done EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord
    I guess it depends on the numbers you use:

    14 days = 2 weeks = 7 injections

    Four injections in the first week and then 3 in the second week. (Repeat for total of 12 weeks)

    7 injections (2 weeks) x 6 (for a total of 12 weeks) = 42 injections

    Most people will list their cycle in weeks. 1 Week = 7 days. 1 month is NOT 4 weeks (31 day month = 4.42 weeks).

    7 days x 12 weeks = 84 days = 42 injections if done EOD
    Wow, now thats deep, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuball
    Wow, now thats deep, thanks.
    Yeah, I did go a little overboard on that. But I did realize that taking 125mg of Sustanon EOD does not give me the 500mg per week I thought I was getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord
    Yeah, I did go a little overboard on that. But I did realize that taking 125mg of Sustanon EOD does not give me the 500mg per week I thought I was getting.
    If you take the month of March and start the 1st to the 31st you come up with 16 shots than April is 15 and May Is also 15 ??? so thats 46 shots ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord
    I guess it depends on the numbers you use:

    14 days = 2 weeks = 7 injections

    Four injections in the first week and then 3 in the second week. (Repeat for total of 12 weeks)

    7 injections (2 weeks) x 6 (for a total of 12 weeks) = 42 injections

    Most people will list their cycle in weeks. 1 Week = 7 days. 1 month is NOT 4 weeks (31 day month = 4.42 weeks).

    7 days x 12 weeks = 84 days = 42 injections if done EOD
    Only one month has 28 days... This month !! Oh sorry Thats right 12 weeks not 3 months !!! IM A DOUCHE !!!
    Last edited by stuball; 02-12-2007 at 01:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Njord
    Shooting 125mg of Sust EOD for 12 weeks will give you 42 injections = 5250mg total. Divided by 12 weeks = 437.5mg per week. Not 625mg.
    No, dont look at it that way.
    im getting 30 x 250mg amps = 7500mgs total.
    7500mgs/12 weeks = 625mgs/week.

    Im asking again... sust, 2-3 times a week or eod injections?

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